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quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
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 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:15 am Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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The air vents in my 1977 Tiger need replaced. Where is the best place to purchase the vents and how do you replace them? Thanks
Tom Quinn
249RR
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grumpyparts
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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Hi Tom, please confirm which vents you wish to replace. Windshield defrosters, front seat fresh air vents or rear seat fresh air vents. Fletchair have good reasonably priced, after market, better replacements for the defrosters. Excel-Air Services have their new PMA defrosters available now at $150 a pair and front seat air vents at $250 a pair, check them out at http://www.excelairservices.com/New%20Air%20Vents.htm
Now for the really bad news, if its new rear vents that you are after, you had better have deep pockets, they are available, but the last price I had for them was over $200 a piece. No one I know of stocks them, lead time from manufacture is many weeks, so best option is to search ebay or salvaged yards for used ones.
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quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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Thanks,
They are the front seat fresh air vents just under the yoke.
Do they just pop out or do you need to unbolt/screw the hole unit to change
them?
Tom Quinn
249RR
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teamgrumman(at)YAHOO.COM
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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What is wrong with the vents under your yoke?
They just pop out.
I don't think they are available any more.
You can clean them up with a sand blaster. Then, mask and spray them with clear. They look pretty good.
From: Tom Quinn <quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 9:49:30 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
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Thanks,
They are the front seat fresh air vents just under the yoke.
Do they just pop out or do you need to unbolt/screw the hole unit to change
them?
Tom Quinn
249RR
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quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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There’s no tension on the grills anymore. You open them and they close themselves off again. Wasn’t sure how they came off and was afraid I’d break them. I’ll pop them off and “eyeball” them to see what I can do to keep them from closing off by themselves. Cheaper than $250 plus shipping. Thanks!
Tom Quinn
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From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:14 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
What is wrong with the vents under your yoke?
They just pop out.
I don't think they are available any more.
You can clean them up with a sand blaster. Then, mask and spray them with clear. They look pretty good.
From: Tom Quinn <quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 9:49:30 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Tom Quinn" <quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com (quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com)>
Thanks,
They are the front seat fresh air vents just under the yoke.
Do they just pop out or do you need to unbolt/screw the hole unit to change
them?
Tom Quinn
249RR
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grumpyparts
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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Not sure how these pictures will be presented on the mailing list, but probably viewed better on the forum site using link below.
The existing vents are held in place by four pegs on each corner which are a snap fit into spring retainers that are a push fit into the fresh airbox.
A thin bladed screwdriver should be used to leaver out each corner as per the picture.
Care must be taken if you want to remove the vents without snapping off any of the pegs, although chances are if the vent is loose in the airbox that some have already broken off.
If any pegs break off in the spring retainers these need removing before trying to remove the retainers from the airbox. Do this by pushing the broken peg into the box, don’t try pulling it out. Next using narrow nosed pliers compress the lugs on the retaining springs so that they can be carefully removed from the front of the airbox.
The new air vents from Excel are a direct replacement and have pegs which will fit in the existing holes, but are used purely as locators not retainers. On each side of the new vents there are spring lugs that will snap into the sides of the airbox opening.
Here is the airbox ready to accept a new EXCEL vent.
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teamgrumman(at)YAHOO.COM
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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sand blasting the grills leaves sand in the pivot points. It'll work OK for a while. I have also made little rubber shims for the sides of the movable vents. This increases the drag on the grill enough to make it work.
From: Tom Quinn <quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 1:04:51 PM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
There’s no tension on the grills anymore. You open them and they close themselves off again. Wasn’t sure how they came off and was afraid I’d break them. I’ll pop them off and “eyeball” them to see what I can do to keep them from closing off by themselves. Cheaper than $250 plus shipping. Thanks!
Tom Quinn
President
[img]cid:1.1118233389(at)web114606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com[/img]TQI Solutions
A SDVOSB Corporation
Tel (757) 204-4618
Cell (757) 573-6818
Fax (757) 204-4628
quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com (quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com)
www.tqiinc.com
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:14 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
What is wrong with the vents under your yoke?
They just pop out.
I don't think they are available any more.
You can clean them up with a sand blaster. Then, mask and spray them with clear. They look pretty good.
From: Tom Quinn <quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 9:49:30 AM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tiger Air Vent Replacement
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Thanks,
They are the front seat fresh air vents just under the yoke.
Do they just pop out or do you need to unbolt/screw the hole unit to change
them?
Tom Quinn
249RR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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In the latest STAR John (Excel Air) advertises his eyeball vents for $80.00
a pair. I was ready to buy, but at $250 a pair? Well, at that price my old
vents are looking pretty good, as do the spare vents I have that I liberated
from a 72 Dodge Dart (I think) at a junk yard a couple of years ago. Paid 2
bucks a piece for them. Might put them on E-Bay....
John is a nice guy, but $250!!, Glad I bought the defroster vents a few
years back a one of the Cedar Key Flyins.
Claude
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had better have deep pockets, they are available, but the last price I had
for them was over $200 a piece. No one I know of stocks them, lead time
from manufacture is many weeks, so best option is to search ebay or
salvaged yards for used ones.
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dmwhite(at)e3ra.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: Tiger Air Vent Replacement |
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So the FAA has "helped" us again by making the parts supply chain "safer"?
Here is the documentation of how they triple the price of a part with their
bleeping rules. I'm glad I bought mine for $80, too.
Dean White (Tiger N81166)
Edmonds, WA 98026
dmwhite(at)e3ra.com
"In the latest STAR John (Excel Air) advertises his eyeball vents for $80.00
a pair. I was ready to buy, but at $250 a pair? "
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