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Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
mau11
15-09-2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Maul1,
Yes, I just completed this conversion and have pictures of the entire process. I am departing Florida for home (N.Tex.) in about 15 minutes. I should be home Thursday afternoon some time. I will send you pictures of the final installation, inside and out, at that time. Eventually, I'll be posting a full section on my Europa Owners website.
Check six,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 15, 2010, at 2:02 AM, mau11 wrote:
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Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
mau11
15-09-2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for your answer I wait yours pictures.
Regards
Michel AUVRAY
15-09-2010
mau11
De ： Robert Borger
Date/heure ： 15-09-2010 11:05:13
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Sujet ： Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
Maul1,
Yes, I just completed this conversion and have pictures of the entire process. I am departing Florida for home (N.Tex.) in about 15 minutes. I should be home Thursday afternoon some time. I will send you pictures of the final installation, inside and out, at that time. Eventually, I'll be posting a full section on my Europa Owners website.
Check six,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 15, 2010, at 2:02 AM, mau11 wrote:
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Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
mau11
15-09-2010
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rlborger(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Michel and friends,
I have several hundred pictures of the process that I will have to high-grade for posting on my web site.
I have selected a few of the final pictures here:
[img]cid:2F2F2E10-765C-4B0C-B56A-9D67BE46AA5B[/img]
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[img]cid:3A386F79-8D4A-4386-8633-6E65D950602B[/img]
I don't have any pictures of the nose gear installation. I did go with the big metal springs rather than the bungee cord for the nose wheel. Nor do I have installation pictures of the flap drive mechanism or new brake master cylinder. I'll have to take some pictures of these when I go back out to the hanger to complete all the work and get the aircraft flying again.
For what it's worth, the reason for the conversion was a ground loop on takeoff. Broke the outrigger mounts on both sides and had a prop strike. The monowheel is just too sensitive on hard surface runways. It's wonderful on turf. A dream to land and take off. But on concrete it's a witch. I had been flying early in the morning two days in a row before the incident. Light winds, (runway 17, winds 0-7 kts variable 170 - 210 degrees) great for practice. No problems at all. On this day, the winds were still 0-7 kts from 170 - 210 and forecast to remain that way till after 1500 hrs local. The pattern was full of training planes. I made one takeoff and landing, no problem. All landings in the monowheel have been full stop, no touch and goes, so I had taxied back to the north end of the runway and waited for a break in the training traffic so I could take off. When the break came, I taxied out onto the runway and checked the wind sock, still light and about 210 degrees. I advanced the throttle slowly and the aircraft accelerated well, at 40 indicated I raised the tail and the aircraft started sliding across the runway sideways while turning to the right. I corrected the heading with some left rudder but before the aircraft was ready to actually fly, the left outrigger got into the grass and mud and turned me into a ground loop. Pretty bad at 40 kts. Damage to both outrigger mounts and a prop strike. Seems that after I taxied out and applied throttle the winds shifted to 16 G 20 from 270 degrees. The monowheel couldn't handle those winds. Literally blew the aircraft off the runway into the long grass and mud. What a mess. Having had a number of these excursion into the grass over the last year, mostly on landing, mostly due to excessive cross winds. I decided that I had an aircraft that was of EXTREMELY limited utility. Only safe to fly on nearly dead calm mornings and nothing else. Sure couldn't plan cross country flying since you never know what winds you'll find at the destination. And in the U.S.A. public turf runways are very rare. You are always landing on hard surface. So, I decided to convert to tri-gear to try and get a more utilitarian aircraft.
This is not a trivial conversion. Go to the Europa site and download the builders manual sections on the Tri-Gear installation to get an idea what is involved. It's a LOT of work and setup and jigging and some of the most miserable glass layups ever. Installing the flap drive is UGLY. Took 17 days working 9 - 12 hrs a day with the help of Bud Yearly and his two sons (they have done about a dozen of these conversions) at Custom Flight Creations to complete the basic conversion and repair the wings. And I still have another couple months of work to do in the hanger to get N914XL flying again. But, I'll have a much more usable aircraft in the end.
If you have any questions about the conversion please don't hesitate to ask them. I'll answer as best I can.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046
Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Hi Bob,
If you have the time send to me tri-gear conversion pictures.
Thanks
Michel
28-09-2010
mau11
De ： Robert Borger
Date/heure ： 15-09-2010 11:05:13
A ： europa-list
Cc ：
Sujet ： Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
Maul1,
Yes, I just completed this conversion and have pictures of the entire process. I am departing Florida for home (N.Tex.) in about 15 minutes. I should be home Thursday afternoon some time. I will send you pictures of the final installation, inside and out, at that time. Eventually, I'll be posting a full section on my Europa Owners website.
Check six,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 15, 2010, at 2:02 AM, mau11 wrote:
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Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
mau11
15-09-2010
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rlborger(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Michel,
I have been traveling much. Home from Florida on the 16th. Unloaded the aircraft into my hanger, went home and washed everything in my suitcase and repacked for Rough River. Awake at 0430 on the 17th to depart for RR at 0500. Returned from RR on the 19th. Washed everything in the suitcase and repacked for a week trip to Ruidoso, New Mexico. Awake at 0700 on the 20th to depart for Ruidoso at 0730. Returned home late on the 26th and have been trying to catch up on everything after being away a month.
I have about 500 MB of photos from the Tri-Gear conversion and repairs to the wings. Also a few other odd pics taken during the trip to Custom Flight Creations. I can put these all on a DVD and mail or ship to you if that's OK with you. All the photos are in time sequence so they should follow reasonably well. I'll be happy to answer questions on any of the pics.
If you would like me to ship the DVD simply provide your mailing address and I'll have it out tomorrow.
Till then, here are a couple small pics of the final work:
[img]cid:BC355A7D-3A29-4CA4-ABA1-216A2899DB69[/img]
It required 10 straight days of work to get to this point, where both main gear legs sockets and gear legs were completely installed.
[img]cid:B9B92BFD-8014-4A0E-BB49-083C813C2F0F[/img]
This is not a trivial conversion. It requires ensuring the landing gear sockets are properly aligned with the airframe to ensure the main wheels track properly and are placed properly with respect to the airframe and CG.
[img]cid:980F5FF8-A038-4881-8C04-5B7167A15738[/img]
But the result is an aircraft that has MUCH greater utility and tolerance to cross-wind conditions.
I still need to take pictures of the flap drive motor installation and final brake master cylinder installation.
Work remaining on my aircraft is -
1. completion of the wing repairs: install new outer flap brackets, install new pitot/static tube, repair transport damage to ailerons & rudder, fill/sand/paint.
2. completion of the brake system: install master brake cylinders, install brake reservoir, run brake lines, make and install a bottom cover (old monowheel hole), fill and bleed brakes.
3. completion of the flap drive system: Flap alignment, install switch and run electrical wires.
4. completion of the firewall forward, again: oil and water coolers, cooling tunnel, oil reservoir, baffles, etc...
5. completion of the speed kit: Install wheel pants, landing gear leg fairings, flap bracket fairings.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046
Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:32, mau11 wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Bob,
If you have the time send to me tri-gear conversion pictures.
Thanks
Michel
28-09-2010
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mau11(at)free.fr
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
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Thank you for your answer Bob.
Yes I am interested by your DVD.
I give to you my adress off list
Many thanks
28-09-2010
mau11
De ： Robert Borger
Date/heure ： 28-09-2010 16:08:31
A ： europa-list
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Sujet ： Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
Michel,
I have been traveling much. Home from Florida on the 16th. Unloaded the aircraft into my hanger, went home and washed everything in my suitcase and repacked for Rough River. Awake at 0430 on the 17th to depart for RR at 0500. Returned from RR on the 19th. Washed everything in the suitcase and repacked for a week trip to Ruidoso, New Mexico. Awake at 0700 on the 20th to depart for Ruidoso at 0730. Returned home late on the 26th and have been trying to catch up on everything after being away a month.
I have about 500 MB of photos from the Tri-Gear conversion and repairs to the wings. Also a few other odd pics taken during the trip to Custom Flight Creations. I can put these all on a DVD and mail or ship to you if that's OK with you. All the photos are in time sequence so they should follow reasonably well. I'll be happy to answer questions on any of the pics.
If you would like me to ship the DVD simply provide your mailing address and I'll have it out tomorrow.
Till then, here are a couple small pics of the final work:
[img]cid:__0(at)Foxmail.net[/img]
It required 10 straight days of work to get to this point, where both main gear legs sockets and gear legs were completely installed.
[img]cid:__1(at)Foxmail.net[/img]
This is not a trivial conversion. It requires ensuring the landing gear sockets are properly aligned with the airframe to ensure the main wheels track properly and are placed properly with respect to the airframe and CG.
[img]cid:__2(at)Foxmail.net[/img]
But the result is an aircraft that has MUCH greater utility and tolerance to cross-wind conditions.
I still need to take pictures of the flap drive motor installation and final brake master cylinder installation.
Work remaining on my aircraft is -
1. completion of the wing repairs: install new outer flap brackets, install new pitot/static tube, repair transport damage to ailerons & rudder, fill/sand/paint.
2. completion of the brake system: install master brake cylinders, install brake reservoir, run brake lines, make and install a bottom cover (old monowheel hole), fill and bleed brakes.
3. completion of the flap drive system: Flap alignment, install switch and run electrical wires.
4. completion of the firewall forward, again: oil and water coolers, cooling tunnel, oil reservoir, baffles, etc...
5. completion of the speed kit: Install wheel pants, landing gear leg fairings, flap bracket fairings.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046
Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:32, mau11 wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Bob,
If you have the time send to me tri-gear conversion pictures.
Thanks
Michel
28-09-2010
mau11
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