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		pchap(at)primus.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				I'm trying to re-glue a thin rubber floor mat.
 
 Any suggestions on a glue?
 
 An alternative would be to attach velcro to the mat & floor, allowing 
 for easier access, but it often seems that velcro holds better than 
 the glue it is attached with. Grit does get down there and needs to 
 be vacuumed out from time to time.
 
 Just the way I sit in the HDS, I put a lot of pressure on the mat at 
 my heels, any time I move in the seat, pushing the floor mat into the 
 pedals unless the mat is well secured.
 Peter Chapman
 Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC
 
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		Z601c(at)anemicaardvark.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				A product I've used repeatedly, with excellent results, for the last 20 years 
 or so, is Duraseam aircraft trim cement. Airtex, 
 http://www.airtexinteriors.com/ sells it. It was $12 per pint, the last time I 
 checked.
 
 On Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:30:10 you wrote:
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  I'm trying to re-glue a thin rubber floor mat.
  
  Any suggestions on a glue?
  
  An alternative would be to attach velcro to the mat & floor, allowing
  for easier access, but it often seems that velcro holds better than
  the glue it is attached with. Grit does get down there and needs to
  be vacuumed out from time to time.
  
  Just the way I sit in the HDS, I put a lot of pressure on the mat at
  my heels, any time I move in the seat, pushing the floor mat into the
  pedals unless the mat is well secured.
  
  
  Peter Chapman
  Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC
  
  
 
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		larry(at)macsmachine.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:28 pm    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				I believe you could use Velcro dots for the thin rubber mat.  I put thin
 soundproofing down that way and then a thin carpet on top of that.  The
 carpet just meets the
 Surface of the heel plate channel and works well in my HDS.
 
 Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
 
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		ronlee
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				The best adheasive I have found is "Weldwood contact cement". It even holds in the heat of the desert where all others fail.
 Use according to the directions on the can. Both surfaces must be dry before you put it in place. They have been glueing counter tops down with it for many years. The only problem with it is when it makes contact with the surface you are glueing to, it can't be moved, cuz it it's stuck tight!
 
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		carlossa52(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				Some cars have a hook near the front of the driver seat where the carpet hooks on to, thus preventing the carpet from sliding forward.Actually, the hook is more like a short cylinder, say 15 mm diameter, 5 mm high, and the carpet has a circular, reinforced hole that matches the cylinder.
   
 
 Carlos
 CH601-HD, plans
 
 On 28 September 2010 14:30, Peter Chapman <pchap(at)primus.ca (pchap(at)primus.ca)> wrote:
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  I'm trying to re-glue a thin rubber floor mat.
  
  Any suggestions on a glue?
  
  An alternative would be to attach velcro to the mat & floor, allowing for easier access, but it often seems that velcro holds better than the glue it is attached with. Grit does get down there and needs to be vacuumed out from time to time.
    
  Just the way I sit in the HDS, I put a lot of pressure on the mat at my heels, any time I move in the seat, pushing the floor mat into the pedals unless the mat is well secured.
  
  
  Peter Chapman
  Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC [b]
 
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		daveaustin2(at)primus.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				Peter,
 Does rubber burn?
 Dave
 
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		flyadive(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:27 am    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				Ron:
 
 WHY would you want to GLUE the mat in place? !  !  !
 What happens when you get it wet and want to pull it out to dry.
 What happens when you spill your coffee all over the mat?
  What happens when you take up a friend for a flight and they UP-CHUCK all over it?
 What happens when you wear out the mat and want to replace it?
 I know what happens - You curse like a sailor trying to remove the mat and the glue.
  
 
 Why not use Heavy Duty PLASTIC Velcro - We use it hear at work and it is awesome!
 The trick is:
 CLEAN the area well - MEK - Acetone - Alcohol
 Install it and DO NOT use it for 24 to 48 Hours.  The adhesive takes a while to take set.
  Use two pieces at each corner forming a ' L'.  This holds in both the X & Y axis.
 You then can Roll - Loop - And CLEAN very easy.
 Barry
  
 
 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:58 PM, ronlee <rlee468(at)comcast.net (rlee468(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
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  The best adheasive I have found is "Weldwood contact cement". It even holds in the heat of the desert where all others fail.
  Use according to the directions on the can. Both surfaces must be dry before you put it in place. They have been glueing counter tops down with it for many years. The only problem with it is when it makes contact with the surface you are glueing to, it can't be moved, cuz it it's stuck tight!
   
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		flyadive(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:27 am    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				OH!  One more thing:What happens when you SPILL BRAKE Fluid on the mat?
 Barry
 
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  [quote]Ron:
 
 WHY would you want to GLUE the mat in place? !  !  !
 What happens when you get it wet and want to pull it out to dry.
  What happens when you spill your coffee all over the mat?
  What happens when you take up a friend for a flight and they UP-CHUCK all over it?
 What happens when you wear out the mat and want to replace it?
 I know what happens - You curse like a sailor trying to remove the mat and the glue.
   
 
 Why not use Heavy Duty PLASTIC Velcro - We use it hear at work and it is awesome!
 The trick is:
 CLEAN the area well - MEK - Acetone - Alcohol
 Install it and DO NOT use it for 24 to 48 Hours.  The adhesive takes a while to take set.
   Use two pieces at each corner forming a ' L'.  This holds in both the X & Y axis.
 You then can Roll - Loop - And CLEAN very easy.
 Barry
 
  
 
  
 
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  The best adheasive I have found is "Weldwood contact cement". It even holds in the heat of the desert where all others fail.
  Use according to the directions on the can. Both surfaces must be dry before you put it in place. They have been glueing counter tops down with it for many years. The only problem with it is when it makes contact with the surface you are glueing to, it can't be moved, cuz it it's stuck tight!
    
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		klaus(at)utdallas.edu Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:42 am    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				Hi,
 
 An alternative to carpet for the heel plate channel is 6 in. wide
 stainless steel tape. This is a very thin self-adhesive tape.
 The weight is next to nothing.
 The tape is almost indestructible, and heels cannot possibly do damage.
 Aft of the channel is a nonflammable carpet without glue
 or attachment. The carpet cannot move since it is
 held in place by the channel and spar.
 
 BTW, I have found the stainless steel tape to be useful in other spots,
 for example, for shielding rubber hoses near exhaust pipes.
 
 Happy flying,
 
 Klaus[url=http://www.utdallas.edu/%7Eklaus][/url]
 
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		Thruster87
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				[quote="klaus(at)utdallas.edu"]Hi,
 
 .
 
 BTW, I have found the stainless steel tape to be useful in other spots,
 for example, for shielding rubber hoses near exhaust pipes.
 
 Happy flying,
 
 Klaus[url=http://www.utdallas.edu/%7Eklaus][/url]
 
 Thin  Stainless  sheeting is a pretty good conductor of heat,  so it would not protect rubber hoses very well if it was in contact or very close.That's why it is recommended to use thermal-insulated hose covers where heat may cause problemsCheers T87
 
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		klaus(at)utdallas.edu Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:41 am    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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 Regarding the comment
 
 "Thin  Stainless  sheeting is a pretty good conductor of heat,  so it would not
 protect rubber hoses very well if it was in contact or very close.That's why it[b]
 [/b]is recommended to use thermal-insulated hose covers where heat may cause problems[b]"
 
 [/b]The tape has excellent reflective properties of heat radiation, much better than a black hose.
 I have used it with very good results. But of course thermal insulted hose covers are the
 standard approach. 
 
 Happy flying,
 
 Klaus
 [url=http://www.utdallas.edu/%7Eklaus][/url]
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: glue for rubber floor mat? | 
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				Thanks for the ideas.
 
 I may go with velcro, as I've never liked the idea of gluing the mat 
 down too permanently.
 Peter Chapman
 Toronto, ON           601 HDS  /  912  /  C-GZDC
 
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