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Randy(at)abros.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

10.500 alt  

20.6 mp  

2300 rpm  

12.4 gph  

136 ind  

162 adj  

159 gs  

   

10,520 alt.  

11,390 density alt Dynon  

136kts ind  

160 kts adj.  

155 kts gs.  

12.2 gph  

62% power  

   

13,500  

13,610 adj dynon  

11.3 gph  

18.3 mp  

2300 rpm  

130 kts ind.  

162 kts adj  

12 gph  

151 kts gs (headwind)  

   

Randy N610RV

pilotdds(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else familiar and have suggestions? 

 

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

I can remember reading, but don’t know where, that you ground it through the nutplate.  I.e. you rivet the antenna between the nutplates and the wingtip.  

     

Rene' Felker  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds(at)aol.com

 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:52 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter alt.  

  

         

Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else familiar and have suggestions?   

  

 

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Jerry Grimmonpre'

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
Location: Huntley, Illinois 60142

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

Check this site ... www.rvproject.com ..    Dan  Checkoway has done the grounding with wingtip antenna and reports good  reception.  I tried to find the specific address relating to your request,  but was unable.  I think there is a search function ... sorry I can't be of  more help.  With patience you'll find it.

 Jerry Grimmonpre'

 RV8A Electrical

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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

We did it under the nutplates if I remember correctly, so it grounds through all of the screws and into the skin.  I have seen another installation that uses aluminum angle on the outboard most rib and it doesn’t remove with the wingtips.  I think I am going that way with this one.  Not going to do another Wingtip COM, but the NAV seems to work great.  Also going with the Marker antenna in the tip this time.  

   

40415 in the paint and interior shop  

     

Jesse Saint  

I-TEC, Inc.  

jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)  

www.itecusa.org  

352-465-4545  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds(at)aol.com

 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:52 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter alt.  

  

         

Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else familiar and have suggestions?   

  

 

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wcurtis(at)core.com
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

[quote]Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am  >trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it >given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else  >familiar and have suggestions?  Use Aluminum tape.  That and the screws through the nutplate will ensure conductive contact between the antenna and the wingtip.  http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings99y.html  William Curtis 40237 - Fuse http://nerv10.com/

Randy(at)abros.com
Guest

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

I grounded both through the nut plates.  Nav and com work great.  The com needs to be lifted up so it is as vertical as possible.  I riveted an extra trip if alum to the bottom of the com antenna and then bent it so the antenna could angle up.  Randy  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds(at)AOL.COM

 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:52 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter alt.  

  

         

Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else familiar and have suggestions?   

  

 

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

I must not understand how to search the archives correctly  or perhaps what words to use for this one.  I know it was discussed  before.  Anyway....

  

 Problem:  I have an extra hole (in my Tailcone top  skin, fellas, sheesh.)  

  

 I didn't even know I had it until I began peeling off the  plastic to get ready to final deburr my Tailcone front top skin.  Sure  enough there are two holes in the corresponding tab of the rib.  Picture  attached.  Van's says to dimple and rivet and move on, since it's only one  mistake in a long row of good holes.  However, the holes in the skin are so  close together that any dimpling will break through and make it a big  hole.  What to do?  

  

 John Jessen

   ~328 (this is my first mistake, of  course)



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy  DeBauw

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:59 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Performance numbers at  highter alt.

 

  

I grounded both through  the nut plates.  Nav and com work great.  The com needs to be lifted  up so it is as vertical as possible.  I riveted an extra trip if alum to  the bottom of the com antenna and then bent it so the antenna could angle  up.  Randy 

     

 

From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds(at)AOL.COM

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:52  AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Performance numbers  at highter alt.

 

     

Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel  was built by aerocraft.I am trying to mount Bob archer ant and am curious how  you grounded it given the fact the wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else  familiar and have suggestions? 

 



-----Original  Message-----

From: Randy DeBauw <Randy(at)abros.com>

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sun,  30 Apr 2006 10:35:46 -0700

Subject: Performance numbers at highter  alt.   

10.500  alt

  

20.6  mp

  

2300  rpm

  

12.4  gph

  

136 ind

  

162  adj

  

159  gs

  

 

  

10,520  alt.

  

11,390 density alt  Dynon

  

136kts ind

  

160 kts  adj.

  

155 kts  gs.

  

12.2  gph

  

62%  power

  

 

  

13,500

  

13,610 adj  dynon

  

11.3  gph

  

18.3  mp

  

2300  rpm

  

130 kts ind.

  

162 kts  adj

  

12  gph

  

151 kts gs  (headwind)

  

 

  

Randy  N610RV

indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

If the extra hole has a bulkhead flange behind it, simply bond the hole to 

the flange and move on.  I wouldn't(Didn't) put an extra rivet( in my case). 

  I accidentally made an extra hole with the C frame but it didn't go as far 

as make the dimple.  Use a metal epoxy after sanding all pieces and rivet 

the rest as usual.  Prep before painting and you will never ever see it 

again.



John G. 409

[quote]From: "John Jessen" <jjessen(at)rcn.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Performance numbers at highter alt.

Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 13:31:08 -0700



I must not understand how to search the archives correctly or perhaps what

words to use for this one.  I know it was discussed before.  Anyway....



Problem:  I have an extra hole (in my Tailcone top skin, fellas, sheesh.)



I didn't even know I had it until I began peeling off the plastic to get

ready to final deburr my Tailcone front top skin.  Sure enough there are 

two

holes in the corresponding tab of the rib.  Picture attached.  Van's says 

to

dimple and rivet and move on, since it's only one mistake in a long row of

good holes.  However, the holes in the skin are so close together that any

dimpling will break through and make it a big hole.  What to do?



John Jessen

   ~328 (this is my first mistake, of course)



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:59 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Performance numbers at highter alt.



I grounded both through the nut plates.  Nav and com work great.  The com

needs to be lifted up so it is as vertical as possible.  I riveted an extra

trip if alum to the bottom of the com antenna and then bent it so the

antenna could angle up.  Randy



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds(at)AOL.COM

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:52 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Performance numbers at highter alt.



Randy,I have a flying Rv-10.Panel was built by aerocraft.I am trying to

mount Bob archer ant and am curious how you grounded it given the fact the

wingtips slide inside the skin?Anyone else familiar and have suggestions?

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pascalreid(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

Randy;

 I saw this report about props somewhere in my  researching the RV-10 to death. Seeing your plane was compared to Vic Syracuse  and the company plane, wondering if you could expand on this report, how valid  is it? 

 Didn't see anything in the archives that covered if  it did, please let me know where to look as I find the 11mph loss of the MT prop  on Vic's plane compared to the 2 blade  rather interesting.

 Thanks!

 Pascal

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Randy(at)abros.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

The 198 mph number on my plane was before I found the rigging problem. After running the numbers Ken Kruger recommended that I check the rigging. On the way home from Oshkosh I found that the Ailerons were 3/8” of an inch down from the flaps. I must not of had the flaps all of the way up when I set the Ailerons to match.  I have not rerun the flight test to get a more accurate number.  Randy  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Verizon

 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:17 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter alt.  

  

     

Randy;  

    

I saw this report about props somewhere in my researching the RV-10 to death. Seeing your plane was compared to Vic Syracuse and the company plane, wondering if you could expand on this report, how valid is it?   

    

Didn't see anything in the archives that covered if it did, please let me know where to look as I find the 11mph loss of the MT prop on Vic's plane compared to the 2 blade  rather interesting.  

    

Thanks!  

    

Pascal  

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ericmpmail-rv10(at)yahoo.
Guest

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

I thought at one point the RV-10 was going to have a

negative flap position for better cruise speeds. Does

anyone recall this as well? is full up zero or

slightly negative?



Eric



--- Randy DeBauw <Randy(at)abros.com> wrote:



[quote] The 198 mph number on my plane was before I found

 the rigging problem.

 After running the numbers Ken Kruger recommended

 that I check the

 rigging. On the way home from Oshkosh I found that

 the Ailerons were

 3/8" of an inch down from the flaps. I must not of

 had the flaps all of

 the way up when I set the Ailerons to match.  I have

 not rerun the

 flight test to get a more accurate number.  Randy

 

 

 

 ________________________________

 

 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On

 Behalf Of Verizon

 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:17 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Performance numbers at

 highter alt.

 

 

 

 Randy;

 

 I saw this report about props somewhere in my

 researching the RV-10 to

 death. Seeing your plane was compared to Vic

 Syracuse and the company

 plane, wondering if you could expand on this report,

 how valid is it?

 

 Didn't see anything in the archives that covered if

 it did, please let

 me know where to look as I find the 11mph loss of

 the MT prop on Vic's

 plane compared to the 2 blade  rather interesting.

 

 Thanks!

 

 Pascal

 

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jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: Performance numbers at highter alt.

Up 3 degrees from even with the wing cord is the cruise setting.  We also

use this for climb so as not to forget to put it up, although they recommend

flat for climb.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

352-465-4545



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