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Jabiru 3300 OV protection

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Jabiru 3300 OV protection Reply with quote

Hi Bob,
Do you have a protection circuit to protect against regulator-rectifier failure for the PM alternator as used on the Jabiru 3300? I have installed the OV crowbar circuit but does this stop voltage excess say 15-20V? I am getting interference affecting the ECU as I have fuel injected the engine. I will test the Vreg output in a couple of days but need to be sure I have this protection if possible anyway.
Thanks
Peter
Quickie Q-200Jabiru

It would the be the same technique illustrated
in . . .

http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z16M.pdf

OV protection systems for 14v airplanes are designed
to shut the alternator down and latch it off if the
bus voltage exceeds 16.0 to 16.5 volts.

Have you had a voltmeter on the system. This is the
FIRST thing you do for iniital operations of any new
system . . . see if the alternator is even working
and deduce the voltage regulator setting.



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Jabiru 3300 OV protection Reply with quote

Thanks Bob
Yes I have a voltmeter and have not noticed a problem but I will fit the S704-1 for protection. The EFI system has worked fine for 3 years but now it seems that noise is boosting the MAP signal which no longer follows the fuel maps and it runs over rich. I will also test with alternator disconnected.
I will report back when solved and hope it may help someone else.
Thanks
Peter

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Subject: Jabiru 3300 OV protection


Hi Bob,
Do you have a protection circuit to protect against regulator-rectifier failure for the PM alternator as used on the Jabiru 3300? I have installed the OV crowbar circuit but does this stop voltage excess say 15-20V? I am getting interference affecting the ECU as I have fuel injected the engine. I will test the Vreg output in a couple of days but need to be sure I have this protection if possible anyway.
Thanks
Peter
Quickie Q-200Jabiru

It would the be the same technique illustrated
in . . .

http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z16M.pdf

OV protection systems for 14v airplanes are designed
to shut the alternator down and latch it off if the
bus voltage exceeds 16.0 to 16.5 volts.

Have you had a voltmeter on the system. This is the
FIRST thing you do for iniital operations of any new
system . . . see if the alternator is even working
and deduce the voltage regulator setting.




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Jabiru 3300 OV protection Reply with quote

At 03:23 PM 11/10/2010, you wrote:
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Thanks Bob
Yes I have a voltmeter and have not noticed a problem but I will fit the S704-1 for protection. The EFI system has worked fine for 3 years but now it seems that noise is boosting the MAP signal which no longer follows the fuel maps and it runs over rich. I will also test with alternator disconnected.
I will report back when solved and hope it may help someone else.

Hmmmm . . . engine sensors tend to offer DC signals that are
easy to filter. I suspect that alternator 'noise' is not
root cause for the noted errors. But I could be wrong. Let
us know what you find and holler if we can help.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Jabiru 3300 OV protection Reply with quote

Thanks again Bob,
It turns out I do have the PM alternator disconnect relay S704-1 I had forgotten. I suppose if the rectifier is shot it would pass up to 16VAC. The supply voltage from ECU to MAP sensor is 5VDC which I confirmed static. Not sure if the ECU signal input is filtered but it should be as you say.
I will report back when tried with alternator disconnected.

Peter


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At 03:23 PM 11/10/2010, you wrote:


Thanks Bob
Yes I have a voltmeter and have not noticed a problem but I will fit the S704-1 for protection. The EFI system has worked fine for 3 years but now it seems that noise is boosting the MAP signal which no longer follows the fuel maps and it runs over rich. I will also test with alternator disconnected.
I will report back when solved and hope it may help someone else.

Hmmmm . . . engine sensors tend to offer DC signals that are
easy to filter. I suspect that alternator 'noise' is not
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us know what you find and holler if we can help.



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