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dougsnash
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: RotaxEngines-List Digest: Flying LSAs into Canada |
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Up here in the Great White North we have a what's called a Catagory 4 medical. It is a form that you can download from Trnsport Canada that lists several serious imparments to flying. Things like heart attacks, insulin dependant diabetis, head injuries, etc.
For our Ultralight permit you look at the list and if you don't have any of them you sign the form and send it in (with the appropriate fee) and you get the Cat 4 medical. This Cat 4 medical only allows you to fly solo or with another pilot in a Canadian ultralight (essentially ELSA).
Now if you want to carry passenger, you take the same form to your family doctor and get him to sign that he agrees that you don't have any of the listed conditions and then you have a "Doctors Coutersigned Cat 4 Medical". This is used for our Ultralight passenger rating and for our Recreational Permit which is vaugly similar to the US Sport Pilot license but with a much higher max weight limit.
If by some chance you do have any of the listed medical issues, it is still possible to get a medical however that becomes special issue medical and is a bit more involved.
If you really want to fly in Canada as a US Lic Private Pilot and don't want to get an FAA medical, our Cat 3 medical is much less stressful than the US equivelent. I have a friend who has taken both medical checks. He was worried about being able to renew his US medical but laughed about it once he converted over to his Canadian license.
Doug MacDonald
NW Ontario, Canada
CH-701 C-GBQX
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| Quote: | Time: 07:59:41 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: RotaxEngines-Flying LSA
into Canada
From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska(at)gmail.com>
Noel,
Can you clarify what you mean when you suggest that
American LSA pilots
"should just fill out the same class 4 declaration that we
do and pay their
$50 registration fee." Sorry, but tI don't understand what
you are saying or
how it would be helpful. I'm a private pilot in Alaska and
would love to be
able to fly Canadian airspace. But I don't want to get a
medical because if
I should happen to fail the medical, I would then not be
eligibile to fly
even if I am only exercising Light Sport privileges.
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kenryan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: RotaxEngines-List Digest: Flying LSAs into Canada |
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Thanks Doug,
That was very helpful.
Ken Ryan
Anchorage, Alaska
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:40 AM, MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>
Up here in the Great White North we have a what's called a Catagory 4 medical. It is a form that you can download from Trnsport Canada that lists several serious imparments to flying. Things like heart attacks, insulin dependant diabetis, head injuries, etc.
For our Ultralight permit you look at the list and if you don't have any of them you sign the form and send it in (with the appropriate fee) and you get the Cat 4 medical. This Cat 4 medical only allows you to fly solo or with another pilot in a Canadian ultralight (essentially ELSA).
Now if you want to carry passenger, you take the same form to your family doctor and get him to sign that he agrees that you don't have any of the listed conditions and then you have a "Doctors Coutersigned Cat 4 Medical". This is used for our Ultralight passenger rating and for our Recreational Permit which is vaugly similar to the US Sport Pilot license but with a much higher max weight limit.
If by some chance you do have any of the listed medical issues, it is still possible to get a medical however that becomes special issue medical and is a bit more involved.
If you really want to fly in Canada as a US Lic Private Pilot and don't want to get an FAA medical, our Cat 3 medical is much less stressful than the US equivelent. I have a friend who has taken both medical checks. He was worried about being able to renew his US medical but laughed about it once he converted over to his Canadian license.
Doug MacDonald
NW Ontario, Canada
CH-701 C-GBQX
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> Time: 07:59:41 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Re: RotaxEngines-Flying LSA
> into Canada
> From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska(at)gmail.com (keninalaska(at)gmail.com)>
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> Noel,
>
> Can you clarify what you mean when you suggest that
> American LSA pilots
> "should just fill out the same class 4 declaration that we
> do and pay their
> $50 registration fee." Sorry, but tI don't understand what
> you are saying or
> how it would be helpful. I'm a private pilot in Alaska and
> would love to be
> able to fly Canadian airspace. But I don't want to get a
> medical because if
> I should happen to fail the medical, I would then not be
> eligibile to fly
> even if I am only exercising Light Sport privileges.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:09 am Post subject: RotaxEngines-List Digest: Flying LSAs into Canada |
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This form is the most stupid medically incompetant form I have ever seen.
Many one time or temporary conditions are mentioned which dont really have
any bearing on flying competancy. ie: kidney stones LOL Much like the 3rd
class medical in the Us both are a joke. In the US you cant take certain
meds which reduce your risk factors down to that of the normal population
but you can fly with drugs ie Viagra which impairs one's vision. Many other
examples can be sited in both medicals. So what else is new, certainly
cant assume legislation is backed up by intelligence.
Ivan
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Thom Riddle
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: Flying LSAs into Canada |
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Doug,
Very useful information on the Cat 3 Canadian Medical. I wonder if the FAA would accept that as a substitute for an FAA 3rd Class Medical for private pilot privileges. My guess is that unless the pilot was Canadian citizen, they would not because it would be seen as an attempt to circumvent the established FAA Medical requirements.
The reason I'm interested in this is that I do maintenance and inspection on a US registered Diamond Katana (heavier than LSA limit) that is owned by a Canadian but hangared here in Buffalo at the same airport I fly from. The owner likes for me to test fly his airplane after doing maintenance on it but since I let my FAA medical expire a few years ago, I've not been legally able to do that. I have no reason to think I would not pass an FAA medical but don't want to go through the process if I don't actually need it.
Very interesting thread for us who live close to the borders.
Do you happen to know the answers to these?
1) Are US registered aircraft required to have 12" high registration numbers to fly into Canada?
2) Must US registered aircraft have a 406 MHz ELT to fly into Canada? I fly my Kolb Slingshot as a single place since I removed the seat belt from the back "seat" and therefore don't even need any type of ELT.
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