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captainron1(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

Has anyone thought of trying to install an O-200 Conti on an M3X. with my modified rail Mount I could paste one there, the oil tank will not be in the way. However it's a big sucker, and heavy, but,,, about the same weight as the DBL cam 16 valve 1.3 litr zuki I have sitting there now.

I think it was Williams that had a Hirth on his M3X he went over to a 912 later on. Still not clear why he did not stay with the Hirth. the specs look mighty good on it.



I see some of them Conti O-200 pretty affordable.

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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

I think it was Williams that had a Hirth on his M3X he went over to a 912 

later on. Still not clear why he did not stay with the Hirth. the specs look 

mighty good on it.



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John Williamson never flew with a Hirth or any other two stroke on his 

Kolbra.



Jabiru

Verner

912UL

912ULS



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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captainron1(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

yes that's right I remember the Verner and the vibration, I also now remember the jabi, that was over heating iirc. So who had the big Hirth on his ride?

As I am told its not the memory, its that I have too many things on my mind as some chick once told me who of course I forgot her name and who she was. Laughing....

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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

Was down to 19F last night may even get lower than that tonight still warmed up to 47F today, replaced a tach cable on the Beech and went flying for about 30 minutes. I need that Kolb finished. Perfect flying weather here in Sierra Vista AZ calm clear cool. Just right. already 39F and its only 18:00.



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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

Has anyone thought of trying to install an O-200 Conti on an M3X. with  my modified rail Mount I could paste one there, the oil tank will not be in the  way. However it's a big sucker, and heavy, but,,, about the same weight as the  DBL cam 16 valve 1.3 litr zuki I have sitting there now.

I think it was  Williams that had a Hirth on his M3X he went over to a 912 later on. Still not  clear why he did not stay with the Hirth. the specs look mighty good on  it.



I see some of them Conti O-200 pretty affordable.



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 according to larry borne,,, that was going to be  his original plan,,,,  when people told him it was too heavy he started on  the vw with psru.  then the chain in the psur exploded he caned the vw  idea,  once again considered the o 200.  i think he mentioned a B  model, to be in a pusher configuration.  then he sold everything.  to  my knowledge that is the only mention of o 200  i iknow of.

  

 boyd young mkiii utah

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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

Ron

  

 Early on I wanted too put a Lycoming or Continental on my MKIIIC. I was told by Kolb that it was too heavy so I never really went any further with it. My VW is a bit heavy but with with some effort I was able to keep the empty weight of my MKIIIC just below 600 Lbs. The two major concerns with engine selection is thrust and weight. After that you need to address cost, fuel consumption, reliability, physical size, vibration and a host of other things. 

   

 I really don't have a clue what a "0-200 or a 1.3 zuki" weigh. I do know at almost 600 lbs empty weight I very quickly hit gross weight limits in my airplane with two passengers. If you put a heavy engine on a Kolb you could end up with a single passenger airplane. The factory has and to my knowledge still recommends 1000 Lbs gross weight limit. I have done some modifications and set my gross weight limit at 1050. Some have gone even higher and have made extensive modifications to get a higher limit. Bottom line anything over the factory limits and you are the test pilot and a mistake in this area can be something you can't live with.

   

 Again worth what you paid for it.

  

 Rick Neilsen

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Has anyone thought of trying to install an O-200 Conti on an M3X. with my modified rail Mount I could paste one there, the oil tank will not be in the way. However it's a big sucker, and heavy, but,,, about the same weight as the DBL cam 16 valve 1.3 litr zuki I have sitting there now.

 

 I think it was Williams that had a Hirth on his M3X he went over to a 912 later on. Still not clear why he did not stay with the Hirth. the specs look mighty good on it.

 I see some of them Conti O-200 pretty affordable.



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 according to larry borne,,, that was going to be his original plan,,,,  when people told him it was too heavy he started on the vw with psru.  then the chain in the psur exploded he caned the vw idea,  once again considered the o 200.  i think he mentioned a B model, to be in a pusher configuration.  then he sold everything.  to my knowledge that is the only mention of o 200  i iknow of.

   

 boyd young mkiii utah

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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: Big motor, big problem?

I have thought about it since my first pondering about which motor. I think I mentioned it back in 2001 thereabouts. Since I have changed the mount to my rail design that problem of how to accommodate the oil tank has gone away. I need some free time to maybe go and buy one. I have no problems with aircraft engines ( I am A&P) so it should be a straight job of getting it running. The only thing I am troubling about is a bad mount design for the O-200. I have a friend with a Vereze that has an O200 so I need to look at it some more to see if I want to do it. I may just stay with the Suzuki as I am 90% there; just fed up with the complexity of the installation.

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