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stazel(at)cpros.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:22 am Post subject: Circuit Protection

I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm  looking really hard at using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few  exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is compatible.  A little spendy, but I  like the features and wiring simplifications it offers.  An electrical whiz  I ain't.  Any personal experience out there I can tap into?  So far I  haven't seen anything I would call really negative, but I'm going to  have to raise my confidence level a bit more before I lock in a  decision.  In the meantime, I occasionally take a break from  hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical schematics.   Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.

  

 Stan Loer

 RV-8 QB   

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Dan.Beadle(at)inclinesoft
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: Circuit Protection

I just bought one. For me the biggest draw is the neatness of the installation.  I am hanging it below the instrument panel. That way all connections are very easy to modify. And it really does pay for itself - but only if you don't buy Vans wiring kit.  It includes a lot of parts that are replaced by the VP.  

I am an engineer.  I ripped out the old style work I had done. 

It does take a leap of faith. I went with the pro for some redundancy. There are holes. It the EFIS fails you can't reset a breaker. Maybe it's own breaker.  But how high is the risk. And would reseting in flight help. Still I am adding backup battery to EFIS. Nut more for EFIS backup than for this risk. 



Dan Beadle



On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "Stan Loer" <stazel(at)cpros.com (stazel(at)cpros.com)> wrote:



[quote]  I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm  looking really hard at using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few  exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is compatible.  A little spendy, but I  like the features and wiring simplifications it offers.  An electrical whiz  I ain't.  Any personal experience out there I can tap into?  So far I  haven't seen anything I would call really negative, but I'm going to  have to raise my confidence level a bit more before I lock in a  decision.  In the meantime, I occasionally take a break from  hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical schematics.   Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.

  

 Stan Loer

 RV-8 QB   

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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: Circuit Protection

I think they are a great deal for a number of reasons. Might as well install something electronic built by electrical experts. Start adding up the price of the wigwag, trim speed control etc.... And the actual costs really comes down.Â 

 I think it's a sweet system.Â 

Robin



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On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Dan Beadle <Dan.Beadle(at)inclinesoftworks.com (Dan.Beadle(at)inclinesoftworks.com)> wrote:

 

[quote]I just bought one. For me the biggest draw is the neatness of the installation. Â I am hanging it below the instrument panel. That way all connections are very easy to modify. And it really does pay for itself - but only if you don't buy Vans wiring kit. Â It includes a lot of parts that are replaced by the VP. Â 

 



I am an engineer. Â I ripped out the old style work I had done.Â 

It does take a leap of faith. I went with the pro for some redundancy. There are holes. It the EFIS fails you can't reset a breaker. Maybe it's own breaker. Â But how high is the risk. And would reseting in flight help. Still I am adding backup battery to EFIS. Nut more for EFIS backup than for this risk.Â 

 

Dan Beadle



On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "Stan Loer" <[url=mailto:stazel(at)cpros.com]stazel(at)cpros.com (stazel(at)cpros.com)[/url]> wrote:

 

[quote]  I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm  looking really hard at using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few  exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is compatible.Â  A little spendy, but I  like the features and wiring simplifications it offers.Â  An electrical whiz  I ain't.Â  Any personal experience out there I can tap into?Â  So far I  haven't seenÂ anything I would call really negative, but I'm going to  haveÂ to raise my confidence level aÂ bit more before I lock in a  decision.Â Â In the meantime,Â I occasionallyÂ take a break from  hammers and hacksawsÂ and spend some time on electrical schematics.Â   Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.

 Â 

 Stan Loer

 RV-8Â QBÂ Â Â 

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: Circuit Protection

At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011  Wednesday, you wrote:

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		  I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is compatible.  A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring simplifications it offers.  An electrical whiz I ain't.  Any personal experience out there I can tap into?  So far I haven't seen anything I would call really negative, but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a bit more before I lock in a decision.  In the meantime, I occasionally take a break from hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical schematics.  Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.

 

Stan Loer

RV-8 QB   


	




Hi Stan,



You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over the VP-x.  Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional functionality.  Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will almost completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind.  This makes for a really clean panel.  I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170 hours and haven't had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine flying without it.



The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200, but still requires individual, low current switches to switch the various circuits on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.).  With the VP-200, all of that is done automatically based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruse, etc).  Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON" button, and you never have to think about switches again.  You can still manually select the mode and/or manually turn individually turn circuits on/off if you need to.  Love it.  



I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.



Matt

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Circuit Protection

I concur with Matt on the VP-200. I have been flying with it for nearly three years and 400 hours. It was a leap of faith, and very pricey, for me, but has been fantastic. I would not build another airplane without it.

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