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		Albert Gardner
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Rudder Lock | 
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				The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
 Albert Gardner
 N991RV
 Yuma, AZ
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
 One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock.  Someone has pics of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be great.  However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit - and not luck.  
 Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution?  Was it a Bogie bar?  What brand was it.
 Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Rudder Lock | 
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				My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
 
 David Maib
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 On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
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 The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
 Albert Gardner
 N991RV
 Yuma, AZ
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
 One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock.  Someone has pics of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be great.  However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit - and not luck.  
 Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution?  Was it a Bogie bar?  What brand was it.
 Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Rudder Lock | 
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				I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing. 
 (Red painted one is from my 8A)
 Robin 
  
  From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
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 My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls. 
  
 
 David Maib
 
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 Flying
 
  
  On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
 
 
 The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder. 
 Albert Gardner
  N991RV
 Yuma, AZ 
  
  From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
  One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock.  Someone has pics of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be great.  However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit - and not luck.  
  Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution?  Was it a Bogie bar?  What brand was it.
 Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
 
 
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		Albert Gardner
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Rudder Lock | 
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				Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me and give me a discount on fuel.
 Albert
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: Rudder Lock
  
 I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
 (Red painted one is from my 8A)
 Robin
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Rudder Lock
  
 My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
  
 
 David Maib
 
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 Flying
 
  
 On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
 
  
 The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
 Albert Gardner
 N991RV
 Yuma, AZ
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
 One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock.  Someone has pics of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be great.  However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit - and not luck.  
 Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution?  Was it a Bogie bar?  What brand was it.
 Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
 
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Rudder Lock | 
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				I have used the Bogie Bar with tubes welded on to extend the arms at the end where it grabs the nose wheel. Those tubes fit in the holes on the rudder pedals and then the handle of the bar goes against the seat back with a seat belt holding it down. Then you use the other seatbelt to hold the stick back if you want to lock elevator and ailerons. I have looked at most of the different things that people have used and have tested some of them. There is nothing that I think comes close to as strong as this, especially in heavy winds. I know one plane that had to replace the rudder because he used the spring-loaded gust lock that holds the pedals. It broke in heavy wind and the rudder was damaged beyond repair.
 
 Another benefit is that you can not possibly get in the plane and take off without removing it, because it is in the front seat. It also weighs almost nothing in addition to your tow bar, assuming that you are taking your tow bar with you when you travel.
 
  Jesse Saint
 Saint Aviation, Inc.
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 On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Albert Gardner wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me and give me a discount on fuel.
 Albert
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: RE: Rudder Lock
  
 I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
 (Red painted one is from my 8A)
 Robin
  
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Rudder Lock
  
 My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
  
 
 David Maib
 
 40559
 
 Flying
 
  
 On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
  The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
 Albert Gardner
 N991RV
 Yuma, AZ
  
 
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
 One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock.  Someone has pics of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be great.  However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit - and not luck.  
 Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution?  Was it a Bogie bar?  What brand was it.
 Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
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