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Jim Combs



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Location: Lexington, Ky

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Engine order blues Reply with quote

good point!

The mag is old and WHEN it fails I will most likely add a second Lightspeed. 

Do you start with both ignitions(Since they both go to 0 degree timing on start) or just on one?

Jim C

N312F

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

Personally, I have the Lightspeed plasma III at 800 hours and
I'm very happy.  But, I would wouldn't really recommend mixing
and matching electronic ignitions.  I think if you want to
go E-Mag once they ship, you're better off replacing
BOTH and going with dual.  I have the mag because it's a
simple backup, but if you went 1 LSE + 1 E-Mag, you could
potentially end up with 2 very different advance curves,
so I'd think you're better off doing it other ways.
Either keep the LSE and Mag, or get another LSE, or drop
both of what you have and go with and E-Mag/P-Mag combo
of some sort.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



On 12/9/2011 4:50 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
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Take pictures of the unit once you get it.  Would really like to see
that they are indeed shipping.  I know I have been told for many YEARS
that they would have one shipping.  Seeing is believing.

On the other hand I have been running a Lightspeed unit for 300+ hours
with no issues.  I do have a mag that I would like to replace at some
point.  I start with the lightspeed and see no RPM drop when the mag is
shut off during run-up.  My experience is it works.

My data is I have a Lightspeed installed and working, Have been told
that P-Mag and E-Mag would soon be available for the 540 for many
years.  So yes I am very skeptical.  Optimistic too though.  These have
been working on the 360 engines for some time now with success.  I am
curious that you were put on a waiting/order list.  That was never an
option when I talked to them.

My intentions are to replace the mag with a E-Mag once they really are
shipping. Will have to call and see how many are one the wait list.

Jim Combs

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)
<mailto:robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)>> wrote:

   I called E-Mag today about availability as I was going to place one
   on my -10 during the build process. As you may know I have been
   flying for 2 years so it's been a while. Based on my call E-Mag this
   morning they sent me back a "service slip" which states I ordered
   the unit (no $ down) on 7/16/2007. Yes 2007 so I am high on the
   list.____

   He asked for the first time if I wanted a certified one or an
   experimental unit. It was my understanding they were only going to
   offer certified 6 cylinder units but I guess that is no longer true
   (if it ever was). ____

   Essentially I was told that they are very close and that it would
   not be before New Years but most likely 1st quarter. ____

   I am only passing on what I was told…____

   My guess is that Myron will have plenty of time if he is ordering
   his engine now. Barrett will place a temp Mag on his engine for the
   dyno runs just like they did for me. ____

   I LOVE the P-Mag on my 200 Hp angle valve IO-360 (RV-8A). Nearly
   impossible to hear a mag drop on that side running Auto Plugs. ____

   Congratulations Myron. That will be a nice engine.____

   Robin____

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   Good luck getting PMags for a Lyc 540 as they do not exist.  You
   options are to go with a Lightspeed electronic ignition or Mags.

   Jim Combs

   N312F - 300+ hours
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject: Engine order blues Reply with quote

My used engine came with LASER ignition system installed. Does anyone have any experience with this system as I am not flying yet and do plan on using it. I believe it is electronic with mag backup.

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On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Good luck getting PMags for a Lyc 540 as they do not exist. You options are to go with a Lightspeed electronic ignition or Mags.

Jim Combs

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Engine order blues Reply with quote

Tell them that I recommended the light speed and you'll get an even more animated response! Seriously though, great family to deal with.

Michael

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On Dec 9, 2011, at 1:11 PM, "Michael Kraus" <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> wrote:

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Let me know what Barrett says when you tell them you want to use Lightspeed.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Engine order blues Reply with quote

Klaus as a personality is a dick to deal with, that's why I was the last person that Barrett put a lightspeed on. Ignoring Klaus's personality his product is well proven. P/E Mag had TONS of problems when they came out that are well documented.

For every person that says they pulled their light speed there is probably 2-3 that pulled their p-mag. But that was then and they have improved their product greatly.

Bottom line, do your research and base your decision on history and performance not just the guy selling it. There is no place to pull over at 10,000 feet.

Michael

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On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:03 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

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I would be amazed if any engine builder still endorses Lightspeed.

I replaced a dual Lightspeed install in my 8A with dual P-mags a few years
ago and an very pleased with the Pmags. If anyone is interested I'll send
my experience with Klaus and why I pulled his ignition out off my plane off
line.

Just got a note from Brad at eMag - providing some confidence on his
shipping me the two 6 cylinder units in the near future. The plane is
painted and I'm now in the final panel wire and bolt on phase so I'm hopeful
the timing works.

Carl

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Engine order blues Reply with quote

Hi Jeff,

it's less advanced then all the other electronic ignition systems and it
is certified. I'm running it with great success on a 320 in my current
flying Glastar, using LOP and I'm happy with it. Just make sure the box
itself is very well protected against moisture, a friend of mine had an
issue his plane sitting in the outside heavy rain and then water
dropping into the box.

There is a special box for timing needed and with a serial cable you can
get directly at the status of the box. No timing curves to choose.

Standard rebuilt for maintenance as they have one standard magneto.

In case you don't want to keep it, drop me an email please glastar at
gmx dot net

Thanks

Werner

On 10.12.2011 16:09, Jeff Nichols wrote:
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My used engine came with LASER ignition system installed. Does anyone
have any experience with this system as I am not flying yet and do plan
on using it. I believe it is electronic with mag backup.



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