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cpayne(at)joimail.com
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 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:38 am Post subject: Open Letter |
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Every volunteer organization goes through a life cycle, ups and downs are normal. Early on, the Yak Club served as a common exchange of info about our airplanes that was hard to find anywhere else. Next, the YPA focused on more of the same but added pilot training and formation training.
The RPA expanded into sponsoring events and further training. During the 16 years I have had my CJ, I have witnessed an acceptance within the Warbird community, not only of our aircraft but a grudging acceptance of our flying skills and organizational dynamics. *Most* of the other WB groups are aging and in dire need of an infusion of youth. Our aircraft and organization fit that profile better than any other large WB group out there.
Keep the faith, we have achieved major goals and have carved out a place for ourselves. I believe the future goals should include supporting Airworthiness Issues and New CJ/Yak pilot transition as well as continuing form and acro training at regional events.
Who else is as able to be a voice for our community, if not ourselves??
Craig Payne
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czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: Open Letter |
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Let's all meet on our RPA forum site and bounce around some thoughts.
Bill
On Jan 3, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com> wrote:
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Every volunteer organization goes through a life cycle, ups and downs are normal. Early on, the Yak Club served as a common exchange of info about our airplanes that was hard to find anywhere else. Next, the YPA focused on more of the same but added pilot training and formation training.
The RPA expanded into sponsoring events and further training. During the 16 years I have had my CJ, I have witnessed an acceptance within the Warbird community, not only of our aircraft but a grudging acceptance of our flying skills and organizational dynamics. *Most* of the other WB groups are aging and in dire need of an infusion of youth. Our aircraft and organization fit that profile better than any other large WB group out there.
Keep the faith, we have achieved major goals and have carved out a place for ourselves. I believe the future goals should include supporting Airworthiness Issues and New CJ/Yak pilot transition as well as continuing form and acro training at regional events.
Who else is as able to be a voice for our community, if not ourselves??
Craig Payne
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rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: Open Letter |
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Guys,
Like an earlier poster stated, I am one of the new names on the list. Years before I owned a Yak, I subscribed to the list and regularly read w/ great interest the posts - which ranged from simple and light-hearted to intensely (but professionally) debated hot topics. I even saved a number of these that I thought (hoped) would be functionally-applied someday. It took a lot of time, patience and money that I didn't have, but that day is finally here. Now that I am "hands-on," MANY "real-world" questions have arisen. Initially, before I even pondered the many plausible solutions to some of these, I went to the Yak List - since I KNEW that's where I would receive a wealth of answers / options from the guys whom had "been there." Some questions were met w/ generously-donated time, knowledge and great detail. But on others I received the "internet spanking" of a lifetime. As a high school instructor of 20+ years experience, I know 1st hand that there is no greater injustice that can be served to a student than making them feel unintelligent or out-of-place for asking a question. Not only does it NOT answer the issue tabled, it relegates the would-be learner to a defensive, closed position - very unlikely to venture inquiry ever again. I know I think long and hard about anything I post on the list now. Ironically, the most helpful people (from the list) have contacted me privately - maybe to address me specifically - but I also believe to avoid the (probably unintentional) on-line bullying that can and does occur at times. The internet - and specifically the Yak List - is a potentially ultra-valuable and limitless learning tool as well as a useful mass-communications device. Unfortunately, for some it is also the equivalent of throwing rocks at the other neighborhood kids from the safety of your parent's front door. You guys are blessed...you have the means, equipment, experience and well-developed skills to safely operate and maintain some exciting and exotic aircraft. I would think if you truly love and appreciate your freedom to explore the full potential of these vehicles, you would also want to pass on that passion and knowledge to others. I look to you to learn - as others do. EVERYONE is good at something. EVERYONE can teach someone something. NO ONE is born w/ this knowledge. They learned it from SOMEONE at an earlier stage before actual application. That's life. But how one passes ON that info can range greatly. Will you instruct w/ compelling humility - or will you repulse w/ alienating arrogance? Don't forget when YOU were the student. Yes - the "devil's advocate" can raise concerns not otherwise pondered. But there's a distinct difference between presenting "all sides" and just causing problems. And more importantly, consider offering the same respect to all that you would hope to receive. For lack of a better cliche', "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?" 
But seriously...your aircraft would seem a lot less important if you lost your source of income...THAT would seem a lot less important if you lost your health, etc. It's all a matter of perspective. Be grateful for what you have WHILE you have it - and remember what it was like when you didn't. And if you truly love it - SHARE it. I work hard for my few possessions. But NOTHING means more than family, friends and my good reputation.
This email was not an attempt to point a finger...just a humble point of view from someone whom often finds himself looking in from the outside. I've been blessed in many areas of life, but possessing a rich aviation heritage has not been one of them. THANK YOU to ALL of you. In one way or another, you've ALL taught me something - and I am grateful. I will probably never be labeled the "sharpest pencil in the drawer." But hopefully I will also never be labeled a**hole either.
I look very forward to learning much more, a continued professional relationship and God-willing, I will fly your wing sometime this Summer...
All my very best!
Rico Jaeger
Wausau, WI.
Yak 52 / N21YK
| Quote: | >> Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> 1/3/2012 7:56 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
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Let's all meet on our RPA forum site and bounce around some thoughts.
Bill
On Jan 3, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com>
Every volunteer organization goes through a life cycle, ups and downs are normal. Early on, the Yak Club served as a common exchange of info about our airplanes that was hard to find anywhere else. Next, the YPA focused on more of the same but added pilot training and formation training.
The RPA expanded into sponsoring events and further training. During the 16 years I have had my CJ, I have witnessed an acceptance within the Warbird community, not only of our aircraft but a grudging acceptance of our flying skills and organizational dynamics. *Most* of the other WB groups are aging and in dire need of an infusion of youth. Our aircraft and organization fit that profile better than any other large WB group out there.
Keep the faith, we have achieved major goals and have carved out a place for ourselves. I believe the future goals should include supporting Airworthiness Issues and New CJ/Yak pilot transition as well as continuing form and acro training at regional events.
Who else is as able to be a voice for our community, if not ourselves??
Craig Payne
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drc(at)wscare.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: Open Letter |
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Very true and very well stated. It can be disheartening to newcomers to treated badly by the group. Thanks for such an effort to write this email.
Sent from DrC on the iPhone
On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:28 AM, "Rico Jaeger" <rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us (rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us)> wrote:
[quote] Guys,
Like an earlier poster stated, I am one of the new names on the list. Years before I owned a Yak, I subscribed to the list and regularly read w/ great interest the posts - which ranged from simple and light-hearted to intensely (but professionally) debated hot topics. I even saved a number of these that I thought (hoped) would be functionally-applied someday. It took a lot of time, patience and money that I didn't have, but that day is finally here. Now that I am "hands-on," MANY "real-world" questions have arisen. Initially, before I even pondered the many plausible solutions to some of these, I went to the Yak List - since I KNEW that's where I would receive a wealth of answers / options from the guys whom had "been there." Some questions were met w/ generously-donated time, knowledge and great detail. But on others I received the "internet spanking" of a lifetime. As a high school instructor of 20+ years experience, I know 1st hand that there is no greater injustice that can be served to a student than making them feel unintelligent or out-of-place for asking a question. Not only does it NOT answer the issue tabled, it relegates the would-be learner to a defensive, closed position - very unlikely to venture inquiry ever again. I know I think long and hard about anything I post on the list now. Ironically, the most helpful people (from the list) have contacted me privately - maybe to address me specifically - but I also believe to avoid the (probably unintentional) on-line bullying that can and does occur at times. The internet - and specifically the Yak List - is a potentially ultra-valuable and limitless learning tool as well as a useful mass-communications device. Unfortunately, for some it is also the equivalent of throwing rocks at the other neighborhood kids from the safety of your parent's front door. You guys are blessed...you have the means, equipment, experience and well-developed skills to safely operate and maintain some exciting and exotic aircraft. I would think if you truly love and appreciate your freedom to explore the full potential of these vehicles, you would also want to pass on that passion and knowledge to others. I look to you to learn - as others do. EVERYONE is good at something. EVERYONE can teach someone something. NO ONE is born w/ this knowledge. They learned it from SOMEONE at an earlier stage before actual application. That's life. But how one passes ON that info can range greatly. Will you instruct w/ compelling humility - or will you repulse w/ alienating arrogance? Don't forget when YOU were the student. Yes - the "devil's advocate" can raise concerns not otherwise pondered. But there's a distinct difference between presenting "all sides" and just causing problems. And more importantly, consider offering the same respect to all that you would hope to receive. For lack of a better cliche', "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"
But seriously...your aircraft would seem a lot less important if you lost your source of income...THAT would seem a lot less important if you lost your health, etc. It's all a matter of perspective. Be grateful for what you have WHILE you have it - and remember what it was like when you didn't. And if you truly love it - SHARE it. I work hard for my few possessions. But NOTHING means more than family, friends and my good reputation.
This email was not an attempt to point a finger...just a humble point of view from someone whom often finds himself looking in from the outside. I've been blessed in many areas of life, but possessing a rich aviation heritage has not been one of them. THANK YOU to ALL of you. In one way or another, you've ALL taught me something - and I am grateful. I will probably never be labeled the "sharpest pencil in the drawer." But hopefully I will also never be labeled a**hole either.
I look very forward to learning much more, a continued professional relationship and God-willing, I will fly your wing sometime this Summer...
All my very best!
Rico Jaeger
Wausau, WI.
Yak 52 / N21YK
Let's all meet on our RPA forum site and bounce around some thoughts.
Bill
On Jan 3, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)>
Every volunteer organization goes through a life cycle, ups and downs are normal. Early on, the Yak Club served as a common exchange of info about our airplanes that was hard to find anywhere else. Next, the YPA focused on more of the same but added pilot training and formation training.
The RPA expanded into sponsoring events and further training. During the 16 years I have had my CJ, I have witnessed an acceptance within the Warbird community, not only of our aircraft but a grudging acceptance of our flying skills and organizational dynamics. *Most* of the other WB groups are aging and in dire need of an infusion of youth. Our aircraft and organization fit that profile better than any other large WB group out there.
Keep the faith, we have achieved major goals and have carved out a place for ourselves. I believe the future goals should include supporting Airworthiness Issues and New CJ/Yak pilot transition as well as continuing form and acro training at regional events.
Who else is as able to be a voice for our community, if not ourselves??
Craig Payne
========================http://www.matronics.c========================http://www.matronics.com/con=================
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