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Robert_Harris(at)intuit.c
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: Flaps or no flaps on crosswind lanings in a heavy V

Hey Kurt and others,



In crosswind conditions do you find it easier to land with no flaps or

one notch flaps? I have not landed in a significant crosswind yet but I

prefer one notch three point landings for regular landings as I feel I

have more control of the plane and it lands at a much slower speed.



Robert

Model V 0200

San Diego, CA

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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: Flaps or no flaps on crosswind lanings in a heavy V

Where I am now in Florida there are almost constant

crosswinds.  My first landing there was 90 degrees 12

gusting to 20.  That was the worst I have dealt with

so far.  Only 70 hrs in type.



I like the 50% flaps, 3 point stall, dumping them on

touchdown technique.  The plane sits right down. 

Almost wish I had a twist grip throttle on the flap

handle.  Full control of thrust and lift between that

and the stick...  Old helo pilot here....



On my second such landing on pavement and second using

that technique during testing, I got confused.  I

grabbed and "pulled" full flaps.  There I was back 10

feet high, no speed and my hand off the throttle. 

Ever hear people laugh on the radio???  



Haven't found a need for full flaps, unless I really

had to make a short landing in a headwind.  So far not

required.  I have gottin it down to 30 knots full

flaps and power on in flight, but that is hanging. 

Not yet up to doing that for landings.



I added 2 intermediate flap settings on my plane.  I

might block out the highest setting for control

purposes.  The rest work fine and I can use 1/4 flaps

for takeoff if needed.



Kurt S.  S-5



--- "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris(at)intuit.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hey Kurt and others,

 

 In crosswind conditions do you find it easier to

 land with no flaps or

 one notch flaps? I have not landed in a significant

 crosswind yet but I

 prefer one notch three point landings for regular

 landings as I feel I

 have more control of the plane and it lands at a

 much slower speed.

 

 Robert

 Model V 0200

 San Diego, CA


	


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dave(at)cfisher.com
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: Flaps or no flaps on crosswind lanings in a heavy V

Kurt - Good point on crosswinds and flaps.  And dumping flaps once gear 

touches kills the extra lift and give better braking power.



I will tell you that I only use full flaps for quicker take off and I have a 

Model IV that has about 30 degrees down travel.   I have read of some that 

never use flaps but I almost always do. It will take extra load from gear to 

wings quicker on TO and visa cresa on landing.  Besides we do want the 

shortest adn slowest take off and landings ideally.



Dave

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Robert_Harris(at)intuit.c
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: Flaps or no flaps on crosswind lanings in a heavy V

Thanks Kurt,



I'll practice dumping the flaps.



Robert



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algate(at)attglobal.net
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: Flaps or no flaps on crosswind lanings in a heavy V

I agree totally with Dave,



I almost always use flaps to some degree but in a cross wind I lift the

flaps immediately I have touched down. I find that this gives quick

authority to the rudder and puts the weight on the gear. I do the same on a

soft field landing as lifting the flaps reduces any tendency to nose over.



Gary Algate



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