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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

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About 6 months ago I got a lead from another group member about an =
epoxy gas tank sealer. He directed me to Caswell Plating. They have a =
gas tank sealer kit for 32 bucks that is a phenol novolac epoxy. I just =
used it on one of my tanks and it seems to work very well. I spoke with =
their technical department yesterday and they assured me that this epoxy =
is resistant to gasoline and ethanol. They could not assure me that it =
was methanol resistant (gas line antifreeze) though. =20

Tim Vader


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Tim,
Is this ethanol proof?

http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Tim,

Is that slosh applied?

Kurt S.

--- Tim Vader <vadert(at)telusplanet.net> wrote:

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Group

About 6 months ago I got a lead from another
group member about an =
epoxy gas tank sealer. He directed me to Caswell
Plating. They have a =
gas tank sealer kit for 32 bucks that is a phenol
novolac epoxy. I just =
used it on one of my tanks and it seems to work very
well. I spoke with =
their technical department yesterday and they
assured me that this epoxy =
is resistant to gasoline and ethanol. They could
not assure me that it =
was methanol resistant (gas line antifreeze) though.
=20

Tim Vader

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Dave, Kurt

In the voicemail message I received from the technical department at
crosslink technologies (the makers of this product) the representative uses
the term "proven resistance to a gasoline ethanol blend". As you can see
from the website Dave included it is designed for sloshing.

Tim
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Do you think this would be acceptable on tanks already in covered wings and
flying?

Mike Chaney

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Mike
I think it could be done on a wing removed from the plane. It took over
an hour for the mixture to start to set up. In this time I rolled my tank
every which way to ensure that the entire interior surface was covered.
You'd have to do the same with the tank in the wing. Removing the finger
strainer would be difficult with the tanks still in the wing as the 90
degree fitting will contact the bottom capstrip of the No. 1 rib when you
try to remove it. The other fittings should come out with out problem.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Here's an interesting article from 2001. I wonder what became of this
intitiative.

http://www.bbibiofuels.com/news/view.cgi?article=355


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Home page has a lot of links there to look thru.
Didn't see any additional aviation news right off
though.

Kurt S.

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Here's an interesting article from 2001. I wonder
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http://www.bbibiofuels.com/news/view.cgi?article=355


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Tim

In sloshing your tanks with the Caswell epoxy systems ---- how did you
handle the Kreem that is already sloshed in the tanks by Skystar???

Ted Palamarek
Edmonton, Ab

Subject: Re: Gasoline and ethanol
Mike
I think it could be done on a wing removed from the plane. It took over

an hour for the mixture to start to set up. In this time I rolled my tank
every which way to ensure that the entire interior surface was covered.
You'd have to do the same with the tank in the wing. Removing the finger
strainer would be difficult with the tanks still in the wing as the 90
degree fitting will contact the bottom capstrip of the No. 1 rib when you
try to remove it. The other fittings should come out with out problem.

Tim Vader


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Gasoline and ethanol Reply with quote

Ted
I used 3 one litre cans of acetone one after the other with lots of
sloshing. The acetone / Kreem reaction produces gases so vent the tank
regularly or it will blow the plugs out of the fitting holes. By the time I
used the third can it was more or less of a rinse. The tank including the
baffles appeared devoid of the Kreem. I dried out the tank with the exhaust
from my vacuum cleaner, waited a day and poured in the sealant. The only
problem I had was that the small sump below where the finger strainer sits
was built up a little bit and the finger strainer would not fit back in. I
used my dremel to sand down a spot for the strainer. I think this can be
avoided next time by raising that corner of the tank during the hardening
process.

Tim

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