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Hi All!
Wish us luck – we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My plan is to get during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov AN-2 – the biggest single piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it because we have purchased one (model “VIP /Safari”). My plan is to fly it home direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia and Estonia. That means 813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000 euros). It will take time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My Europa would do it happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel = 200 euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World Championship Aerobatics; last day is Saturday with giant airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will get a possibility to enjoy our plan literally if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he will not tell...
A thought flying a Russian giant with a star engine through Europa low and slow with my family omboard makes me thrilled or mad you can believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
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rparigoris
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Hi Raimo
Good luck on your sojourn.
Please entertain an "idiot", what is a :
"model “VIP /Safari”
A car, boat, aeroplane or other?
Whatever it is, I suspect it will not fit in the back of a Europa with 4 souls onboard.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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Raimo,
I've had the pleasure of seeing/riding in the old Antonov. What a
magnificent bird. You'll love her...
If you ever need crew, I'd be happy to volunteer... 
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 8/1/2012 5:33 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All!
Wish us luck – we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My plan is to get
during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov AN-2 – the biggest single
piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it because
we have purchased one (model “VIP /Safari”). My plan is to fly it home
direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia and Estonia. That means
813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000 euros). It will take
time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My Europa would do it
happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel = 200
euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World Championship Aerobatics;
last day is Saturday with giant airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will get a possibility to
enjoy our plan*literally* if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he will not tell...
A thought /flying a Russian giant with a star engine through Europa low
and slow with my family omboard/ makes me thrilled or mad you can believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa A2A-ala2OK
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to <mailto:toivio(at)fly.to>
www.rwm.fi <http://www.rwm.fi/>
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Dear Ron
AN-2 is an aircraft, not a boat or a car. Watch the attached photo in the earlier message!. “VIP /Safari” is telling what kind of interior there is. That means for example beds for four people and luxury leather seats with full entertainment sets etc. Other models are “agriculture”, “passenger (up to 20)”, “gargo”, “water operations”, “military”, “hospital” etc.
The lenght of this aircraft is 13 metres (40 feet) , it is over 19 metres (60 feet) wide and 5,5 high (17 feet). It has a single 1000 hp radial engine. It is definetely not possible to fit in my Europa´s back seats because my daughters are there. That is why we are flying to Hungary by Ryanair. That is why I have to fly AN-2 back home by my-self.
And that is why I asked you to wish me luck...
Raimo
From: rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us (rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us)
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:53 AM
To: Europa (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: AN-2
Hi Raimo
Good luck on your sojourn.
Please entertain an "idiot", what is a :
"model “VIP /Safari”
A car, boat, aeroplane or other?
Whatever it is, I suspect it will not fit in the back of a Europa with 4 souls onboard.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Jeff
welcome immediately: we have on Sunday (Monday) at
least 8 free seats for individuals who would like
to experience an old fashion adventure through an
old Europe to Finland. I am going to fly low and
slow, w/o any electronics like GPS or
iPad...schedule your flight to Budapest - I have a
shuttle bus waiting there.
Look an attachment; that man visited our home
couple of the years ago. Landing right ahead to
the farmers field 300 metres /1000 feets behind
our home. He is (was) Michael Jackson´s helicopter
pilot. Strange world.
That plane is actually more a helicopter than an
aeroplane. Stall speed around 16-20 knots.
And engine fire up process is unforgetable.
Cheers, Raimo
-----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
From: Jeff
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:01 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AN-2
<topglock(at)cox.net>
Raimo,
I've had the pleasure of seeing/riding in the old
Antonov. What a
magnificent bird. You'll love her...
If you ever need crew, I'd be happy to
volunteer...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 8/1/2012 5:33 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All!
Wish us luck – we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary
tomorrow. My plan is to get
during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov
AN-2 – the biggest single
piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500
kgs. I need it because
we have purchased one (model “VIP /Safari”). My
plan is to fly it home
direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia
and Estonia. That means
813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000
euros). It will take
time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My
Europa would do it
happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130
liters 98E autofuel = 200
euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World
Championship Aerobatics;
last day is Saturday with giant airshow they
claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it
asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will
get a possibility to
enjoy our plan*literally* if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret
but he will not tell...
A thought /flying a Russian giant with a star
engine through Europa low
and slow with my family omboard/ makes me
thrilled or mad you can believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa A2A-ala2OK
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to <mailto:toivio(at)fly.to>
www.rwm.fi <http://www.rwm.fi/>
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rlborger(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Raimo,
AWESOME!!! The worlds largest biplane and you will have, one you lucky guy!
Best of luck on your low & slow flight back to Finland. Post pictures when you can. I really want to see the interior.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger(at)mac.com
On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
Jeff
welcome immediately: we have on Sunday (Monday) at least 8 free seats for individuals who would like to experience an old fashion adventure through an old Europe to Finland. I am going to fly low and slow, w/o any electronics like GPS or iPad...schedule your flight to Budapest - I have a shuttle bus waiting there.
Look an attachment; that man visited our home couple of the years ago. Landing right ahead to the farmers field 300 metres /1000 feets behind our home. He is (was) Michael Jacksons helicopter pilot. Strange world.
That plane is actually more a helicopter than an aeroplane. Stall speed around 16-20 knots.
And engine fire up process is unforgetable.
Cheers, Raimo
-----Alkuperinen viesti----- From: Jeff
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:01 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AN-2
Raimo,
I've had the pleasure of seeing/riding in the old Antonov. What a
magnificent bird. You'll love her...
If you ever need crew, I'd be happy to volunteer...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 8/1/2012 5:33 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All!
Wish us luck we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My plan is to get
during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov AN-2 the biggest single
piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it because
we have purchased one (model VIP /Safari). My plan is to fly it home
direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia and Estonia. That means
813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000 euros). It will take
time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My Europa would do it
happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel = 200
euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World Championship Aerobatics;
last day is Saturday with giant airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will get a possibility to
enjoy our plan*literally* if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he will not tell...
A thought /flying a Russian giant with a star engine through Europa low
and slow with my family omboard/ makes me thrilled or mad you can believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa A2A-ala2OK
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to <mailto:toivio(at)fly.to>
www.rwm.fi <http://www.rwm.fi/>
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Hi Raimo
OK got it!
I only wish I was as lucky of an "idiot" as you!
I once saw a race between a 15 speed bicycle and a AN-2 down the runway (at) Sussex New Jersey USA, the AN-2 lost and there was not much wind!
I think if perhaps you got chummy with a friendly "black hole", you may in fact be able to squeeze an AN-2 in the back of your Europa.
What an experience, enjoy.
Ron Parigoris> > AN-2 is an aircraft, not a boat or a car. Watch the attached photo in the > earlier message!. €œVIP /Safari€ is telling what kind of interior there > is. That means for example beds for four people and luxury leather seats > with full entertainment sets etc. Other models are €œagriculture€, > €œpassenger (up to 20)€, €œgargo€, €œwater operations€, > €œmilitary€, €œhospital€ etc. > > The lenght of this aircraft is 13 metres (40 feet) , it is over 19 metres > (60 feet) wide and 5,5 high (17 feet). It has a single 1000 hp radial > engine. It is definetely not possible to fit in my Europa´s back seats > because my daughters are there. That is why we are flying to Hungary by > Ryanair. That is why I have to fly AN-2 back home by my-self. > > And that is why I asked you to wish me luck.. [quote][b]
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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject: AN-2 |
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Raimo, That's fantastic! Very envious!.
Went with the Europa flyout to Pague into
Benesov in 2000 where we we shown round one without the
double beds. Seem to remember them telling us that it used
just about the same amount of oil as petrol, so hope you
will have the odd drum with you.
Best of luck, David Joyce, G- XSDJ
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 01:33:32 +0300
"Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All!
Wish us luck we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My
plan is to get during Fri-Sat a full type rating for
Antonov AN-2 the biggest single piston engine machine
in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it because we have
purchased one (model VIP /Safari). My plan is to fly it
home direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia and
Estonia. That means 813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas
100LL (7000 euros). It will take time 10 hours with
economy cruise 82 knots. My Europa would do it happily in
6 hours burning not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel =
200 euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World
Championship Aerobatics; last day is Saturday with giant
airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will get a
possibility to enjoy our plan literally if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he
will not tell...
A thought flying a Russian giant with a star engine
through Europa low and slow with my family omboard makes
me thrilled or mad you can believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to
www.rwm.fi
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Raimo
I hope the infection you are suffering from is not contagious for other Europa owners!
After they have taken you away to a place for the insane, I hope the men in the white laboratory coats may be able to help you. I understand the treatment largely consist of removing all your money and is distressing but not too painful.
Good luck and best wishes
Ian Rickard
Europa Club Mods Specialist
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: AN-2 |
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David,
we are going to use about all together about 5000
liters of fuel (AvGas 100LL) to get thye type
rating and to fly it home. I assume we need also
oil some 200 liters or so.
It spent 10-15 times more than Europa /hour and
20-25 times more than Europa /nm. I am worried
about those green people...do not tell them
(children omboard).
Raimo
-----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
From: David Joyce
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:48 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AN-2
<davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk>
Raimo, That's fantastic! Very envious!.
Went with the Europa flyout to Pague
into
Benesov in 2000 where we we shown round one
without the
double beds. Seem to remember them telling us that
it used
just about the same amount of oil as petrol, so
hope you
will have the odd drum with you.
Best of luck, David Joyce, G- XSDJ
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 01:33:32 +0300
"Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All!
Wish us luck – we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary
tomorrow. My plan is to get during Fri-Sat a
full type rating for Antonov AN-2 – the biggest
single piston engine machine in the world. MTOW
is 5500 kgs. I need it because we have purchased
one (model “VIP /Safari”). My plan is to fly it
home direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania,
Latvia and Estonia. That means 813 nm and over
2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000 euros). It will
take time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots.
My Europa would do it happily in 6 hours burning
not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel = 200
euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World
Championship Aerobatics; last day is Saturday
with giant airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it
asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will
get a possibility to enjoy our plan literally if
you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret
but he will not tell...
A thought flying a Russian giant with a star
engine through Europa low and slow with my
family omboard makes me thrilled or mad you can
believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to
www.rwm.fi
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Ian,
do not worry. It is totally free – my wife Marke (really) pays everything! She has noticed it (to let me play) keeps me virile.
And the contamination to the Europa family is sure – you will see later why – in the phase III or IV – I promise!
Raimo
From: G-IANI (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com)
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:44 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: AN-2
Raimo
I hope the infection you are suffering from is not contagious for other Europa owners!
After they have taken you away to a place for the insane, I hope the men in the white laboratory coats may be able to help you. I understand the treatment largely consist of removing all your money and is distressing but not too painful.
Good luck and best wishes
Ian Rickard
Europa Club Mods Specialist
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On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi (raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi)> wrote:
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do not worry. It is totally free my wife Marke (really) pays everything! She has noticed it (to let me play) keeps me virile.
Raimo
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Marke pays for everything... really ? Does she have any unmarried sisters ?
do not archive
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:18 am Post subject: AN-2 |
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Raimo,
..ah but were I in Europe at the moment. Enjoy your flight...
Jeff - Baby Blue
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welcome immediately: we have on Sunday (Monday) at least 8 free seats
for individuals who would like to experience an old fashion adventure
through an old Europe to Finland. I am going to fly low and slow, w/o
any electronics like GPS or iPad...schedule your flight to Budapest - I
have a shuttle bus waiting there.
Look an attachment; that man visited our home couple of the years ago.
Landing right ahead to the farmers field 300 metres /1000 feets behind
our home. He is (was) Michael Jackson´s helicopter pilot. Strange world.
That plane is actually more a helicopter than an aeroplane. Stall speed
around 16-20 knots.
And engine fire up process is unforgetable.
Cheers, Raimo
-----Alkuperäinen viesti----- From: Jeff
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:01 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AN-2
Raimo,
I've had the pleasure of seeing/riding in the old Antonov. What a
magnificent bird. You'll love her...
If you ever need crew, I'd be happy to volunteer...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 8/1/2012 5:33 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
> Hi All!
> Wish us luck – we really need it now:
> My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My plan is to get
> during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov AN-2 – the biggest single
> piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it because
> we have purchased one (model “VIP /Safari”). My plan is to fly it home
> direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia and Estonia. That means
> 813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000 euros). It will take
> time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My Europa would do it
> happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130 liters 98E autofuel = 200
> euros but that is a different story.
> Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World Championship Aerobatics;
> last day is Saturday with giant airshow they claim.
> What are we going to do with our Antonov?
> That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
> All what I can say today is that all of you will get a possibility to
> enjoy our plan*literally* if you like.
> Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he will not tell...
> A thought /flying a Russian giant with a star engine through Europa low
> and slow with my family omboard/ makes me thrilled or mad you can
> believe.
> Cheers, Raimo Toivio
>
> Europa A2A-ala2OK
>
> Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
>
> Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
>
> 37500 Lempaala
> FINLAND
>
> p +358-3-3753 777
> f +358-3-3753 100
>
> toivio(at)fly.to <mailto:toivio(at)fly.to>
> www.rwm.fi <http://www.rwm.fi/>
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Fred Klein
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
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Raimo,
A few years ago there was an AN-2...not your average biplane...based at my little island airstrip...one afternoon a bunch of us airport flunkies piled in for a ride and it was quite a treat...and, as you say, firing up the engine is unforgettable...noise inside the plane was thunderous, though the interior was raw and bare of insulation. The pilot on this flight was Merrill Wien who is the check pilot for "FIFI", the last (I believe) flying B-29...a man with many years experience flying behind those big round engines.
Don't be bashful when you go for that type-rating...
...what an adventure !! ..good businessman that you are, I'm sure you have a plan to make the AN-2 into a profitable enterprise...I wonder how much Finns will pay to join the "Mile High Club"?...and redefine what it means to have a "Happy Landing"...sounds like you have the perfect sub-orbital vehicle to get that question answered.
All the best,
Fred
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Have to add my £0.02 worth ... at the 1992 World Parachute Championships in Anyang, China, the jumpships were 7 or 8 Yun-5s (Chinese copy of the AN-2).
Yes - noisy, big puff of smoke on start-up ... and bald tyres with canvass showing in quite a few places - we were fairly glad to be taking the quick way down and avoiding the landings ... fun though...
Paul
Kit 383 XS Mono 912S
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Hi Raimo,
I can tell you are about to have a lot of fun. I know these machines use a lot of oil but I was a bit startled to see they use 15 kg/hr or about the same amount of fuel used by a Europa. It is a remarkable airplane with some interesting features and obviously does not need a BRS parachute. Here is one quote which I found :-
"The An-2 supposedly has no identifiable stall speed. In fact, the book emergency procedure for an engine failure in IMC or at night is to close the throttle, secure everything, drop full flaps, pull the yoke full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 35 knots, and at a forward speed of about 20 knots, the airplane will sink and eventually hit at a basically survivable, parachute-like descent rate."
We wait for the sensational news on your plans for the AN-2 with great interest.
Cheers, John
N262WF, Mooresville, North Carolina
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[quote]From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi> (raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi)
Subject: AN-2
Hi All!
Wish us luck we really need it now:
My family is flying to Budapest Hungary tomorrow. My plan is to get
during Fri-Sat a full type rating for Antonov AN-2 the biggest
single piston engine machine in the world. MTOW is 5500 kgs. I need it
because we have purchased one (model CVIP /SafariD). My
plan is to fly it home direct via Slovakia, Poland, Liethuania, Latvia
and Estonia. That means 813 nm and over 2000 liters of AvGas 100LL (7000
euros). It will take time 10 hours with economy cruise 82 knots. My
Europa would do it happily in 6 hours burning not more than 130 liters
98E autofuel = 200 euros but that is a different story.
Before our dep we have a chance to enjoy World Championship Aerobatics;
last day is Saturday with giant airshow they claim.
What are we going to do with our Antonov?
That will be sensation and we will publish it asap.
All what I can say today is that all of you will get a possibility to
enjoy our plan literally if you like.
Our American friend Kim Prout knows the secret but he will not tell...
A thought flying a Russian giant with a star engine through Europa low
and slow with my family onboard makes me thrilled or mad you can
believe.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 327 /537
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
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Raimo,
Have you seen the German registered AN2's?
Because of our "Greens" they have a silencer mounted on the side that looks like a 200 liter oil drum!! I am sure that it does not affect the wonderful aerodynamics at all though.
A lot quieter though, inside and out.
I have met a family of campers in one on Endelava. Better that towing a caravan through Europe.
Have fun.
Barry
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Raimo,
I understand that the AN-2 controls are so heavy that you have to be a Russian weightlifter to fly it. Heres a picture of an AN-2 I came across at the remote northern Uganda airfield of Arua in June 2010, on border with South Sudan and Democratic Republic of Congo. It was used by the Uganda army (UPDF), who had chartered it from an Israeli operator, for flying supplies to their forward bases in Congo against rebels. This cargo consisted mostly of bananas and US military advisers. They kindly let me on board for a photo of the panel (see attached). Sadly, it crashed six months later (see attached), nobody (11 on board) was hurt, which says alot about the slow landing speed, all that was left was the frame and a heap of smoking bananas. I attach a report of the crash in Russian international press. Apparently the plane had no paperwork of any kind, Certificate of Airworthiness or anything, so it is amazing it was flown across Africa to that remote spot.
Have a great time, I am highly envious!
Best Richard
Kenya
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Fred, please vacate your workshop and go and wash your mouth out with soap and water!!
While you are doing it, I'm sure Raimo will be personally gathering the required data!
Have been charging around in the 914 most of the week and loving it.
Cheers
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