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coop85(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

Just curious which model Dresser retreads you guys are using?  I'm thinking about going that route on the next tire change.



Thanks,

Marcus

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On May 22, 2012, at 2:28 AM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com (dmaib(at)me.com)> wrote:

I've tried everything from 40 to 50 psi with no noticeable difference. I changed to the Desser retreads with leak guard tubes when the original Van's tires were worn out. Again, no noticeable change. I have balanced carefully, but makes no difference. I get a shake starting at about 15 knots GS and it goes away at about 18 or 19 knots. Seems a bit more noticeable when braking hard on landing, but no real repeatable set of conditions. Sometimes, it doesn't shake at all. Video camera on the belly of the airplane confirmed right main gear is the culprit on my airplane.



David Maib

RV-10 Transition Trainer

40559



On May 22, 2012, at 1:24 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com (ddddsp1(at)juno.com) wrote:



just curious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what air pressure you guys running in your mains?   Also do you still have the original vans tires?

Dean  



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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

I bought the standard Desser re-treads. I've been using them for over

10 years on my Mooney with good wear and no problems.



On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Just curious which model Desser retreads you guys are using?  I'm thinking

 about going that route on the next tire change.



 Thanks,

 Marcus



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 On May 22, 2012, at 2:28 AM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:



 I've tried everything from 40 to 50 psi with no noticeable difference. I

 changed to the Desser retreads with leak guard tubes when the original Van's

 tires were worn out. Again, no noticeable change. I have balanced carefully,

 but makes no difference. I get a shake starting at about 15 knots GS and it

 goes away at about 18 or 19 knots. Seems a bit more noticeable when braking

 hard on landing, but no real repeatable set of conditions. Sometimes, it

 doesn't shake at all. Video camera on the belly of the airplane confirmed

 right main gear is the culprit on my airplane.



 David Maib

 RV-10 Transition Trainer

 40559



 On May 22, 2012, at 1:24 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:



 just curious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what air pressure you guys running in your

 mains?   Also do you still have the original vans tires?



 Dean



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 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

The 15/600-6's are called "High Performance Retreads" when I order them.

Tim

On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I bought the standard Desser re-treads. I've been using them for over

 10 years on my Mooney with good wear and no problems.

 

 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> Just curious which model Desser retreads you guys are using?  I'm thinking

> about going that route on the next tire change.

> 

> Thanks,

> Marcus

> 

> do not archive

> On May 22, 2012, at 2:28 AM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

> 

> I've tried everything from 40 to 50 psi with no noticeable difference. I

> changed to the Desser retreads with leak guard tubes when the original Van's

> tires were worn out. Again, no noticeable change. I have balanced carefully,

> but makes no difference. I get a shake starting at about 15 knots GS and it

> goes away at about 18 or 19 knots. Seems a bit more noticeable when braking

> hard on landing, but no real repeatable set of conditions. Sometimes, it

> doesn't shake at all. Video camera on the belly of the airplane confirmed

> right main gear is the culprit on my airplane.

> 

> David Maib

> RV-10 Transition Trainer

> 40559

> 

> On May 22, 2012, at 1:24 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:

> 

> just curious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what air pressure you guys running in your

> mains?   Also do you still have the original vans tires?

> 

> Dean

> 

> 

> 

> ____________________________________________________________

> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33

> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

> consumerproducts.com

> 

> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com

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> 

> 

> 

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

Yes, you are correct...I didn't go look for the latest marketing name



On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 The 15/600-6's are called "High Performance Retreads" when I order them.

 Tim

 On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:



> 

>

> I bought the standard Desser re-treads. I've been using them for over

> 10 years on my Mooney with good wear and no problems.

>

> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)verizon.net> wrote:

>> Just curious which model Desser retreads you guys are using?  I'm thinking

>> about going that route on the next tire change.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Marcus

>>

>> do not archive

>> On May 22, 2012, at 2:28 AM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

>>

>> I've tried everything from 40 to 50 psi with no noticeable difference. I

>> changed to the Desser retreads with leak guard tubes when the original Van's

>> tires were worn out. Again, no noticeable change. I have balanced carefully,

>> but makes no difference. I get a shake starting at about 15 knots GS and it

>> goes away at about 18 or 19 knots. Seems a bit more noticeable when braking

>> hard on landing, but no real repeatable set of conditions. Sometimes, it

>> doesn't shake at all. Video camera on the belly of the airplane confirmed

>> right main gear is the culprit on my airplane.

>>

>> David Maib

>> RV-10 Transition Trainer

>> 40559

>>

>> On May 22, 2012, at 1:24 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:

>>

>> just curious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what air pressure you guys running in your

>> mains?   Also do you still have the original vans tires?

>>

>> Dean

>>

>>

>>

>> ____________________________________________________________

>> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33

>> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

>> consumerproducts.com

>>

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>> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com

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>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

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Rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

If you go to the RV-10 section of desser They have the retreads for the rear. There is a10% discount if you get the tires and leakproof tubes( with valve angle) package.

On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I bought the standard Desser re-treads. I've been using them for over

 10 years on my Mooney with good wear and no problems.

 

 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> Just curious which model Desser retreads you guys are using?  I'm thinking

> about going that route on the next tire change.

> 

> Thanks,

> Marcus

> 

> do not archive

> On May 22, 2012, at 2:28 AM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

> 

> I've tried everything from 40 to 50 psi with no noticeable difference. I

> changed to the Desser retreads with leak guard tubes when the original Van's

> tires were worn out. Again, no noticeable change. I have balanced carefully,

> but makes no difference. I get a shake starting at about 15 knots GS and it

> goes away at about 18 or 19 knots. Seems a bit more noticeable when braking

> hard on landing, but no real repeatable set of conditions. Sometimes, it

> doesn't shake at all. Video camera on the belly of the airplane confirmed

> right main gear is the culprit on my airplane.

> 

> David Maib

> RV-10 Transition Trainer

> 40559

> 

> On May 22, 2012, at 1:24 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:

> 

> just curious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what air pressure you guys running in your

> mains?   Also do you still have the original vans tires?

> 

> Dean

> 

> 

> 

> ____________________________________________________________

> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33

> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

> consumerproducts.com

> 

> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com

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> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

I've spent way too much time looking for the 10% discount package on the 

Dresser site ... did you perhaps mean this on Van's?



http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/-RV%252d10-Main-Tire-Package-Special-save-10%25-%28two-15%7B47%7D600%252d6PR-Retreads-%26-two-Aero-Classic-Easy-Flate-Tubes%29.html



Later, - Lew



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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:22 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

They have fooled you....that is Desser Tire's discount package on

Desser's web site.



On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:17 PM,  <lewgall(at)charter.net> wrote:

[quote] 



 I've spent way too much time looking for the 10% discount package on the

 Desser site ... did you perhaps mean this on Van's?



 http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/-RV%252d10-Main-Tire-Package-Special-save-10%25-%28two-15%7B47%7D600%252d6PR-Retreads-%26-two-Aero-Classic-Easy-Flate-Tubes%29.html



 Later, - Lew



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rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

Sorry, yes I did. I thought I had the link to the package but apparently it got lost in the mail.

This is the link however.

Word of advice, call Desser on the number from the site, the vans link is Desser's dedicated page for the RV. I spent a lot of time with desser getting the deals and parts and they will make an effort to assure you get what you want. The key here is tell them you want a retread with a Good Year core, you can even specify which Good Year tire you want, if they have it in stock you will get that tire. Do not confuse that the retreads are all the same I am saying to specifically as for a Good Year tire that has been retreaded, otherwise you may get a condor with the retread. Desser grabs the next tire in the stack, there is no preference piles but they will look in the stack for a specific core if you ask.

If there is any issue, let me know.

Pascal

On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:21 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

[quote] 

 They have fooled you....that is Desser Tire's discount package on

 Desser's web site.

 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:17 PM,  <lewgall(at)charter.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> I've spent way too much time looking for the 10% discount package on the

> Desser site ... did you perhaps mean this on Van's?

> 

> http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/-RV%252d10-Main-Tire-Package-Special-save-10%25-%28two-15%7B47%7D600%252d6PR-Retreads-%26-two-Aero-Classic-Easy-Flate-Tubes%29.html

> 

> Later, - Lew

> 

> do not archive

> 

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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

My tires are being delivered today.

How will i know which retreads i got?

Alan



Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:49 AM, PReid <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Pascal

rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

The process is all the same regardless of the core used. The difference is in the original tire used to retread it. So if you look at the sidewall it will tell you what core they used for the retread.

Some people just like having a certain tire, be it Michelin, Good Year, etc.. So I was just giving a heads up that one can ask for it and Desser will attempt to accommodate that request. Sales will tell you it's all the same however.



On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 My tires are being delivered today.

 How will i know which retreads i got?

 Alan

 

 Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:49 AM, PReid <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 

> Pascal

amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited (retread tires)

Thanks. I"ll know for the next time I order.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2012, at 12:04 PM, PReid <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 The process is all the same regardless of the core used. The difference is in the original tire used to retread it. So if you look at the sidewall it will tell you what core they used for the retread.

 Some people just like having a certain tire, be it Michelin, Good Year, etc.. So I was just giving a heads up that one can ask for it and Desser will attempt to accommodate that request. Sales will tell you it's all the same however.

 On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> My tires are being delivered today.

> How will i know which retreads i got?

> Alan

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

> On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:49 AM, PReid <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> 

>> Pascal

> 

> 

> 

>

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