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		Dick Maddux
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be back in the air!
  By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn?
   I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone.
   The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew."
   A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack! Buddies are good to have !!!
   Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the enjoyment and utility of my aircraft!
                                         
                                                                    Dick Maddux
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                                                                    Fox 4, 912UL
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in  the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman,  but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law  say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in  his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
   
  Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to  figure out.
   
  Jan
  www.jcpropellerdesign.com
   
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Thanks Dick,
   
  I had a chat with my hangar mate early on - he is  retired AA and in fact mentioned that the 747 that piggy backs the shuttle that  is on tour was in the AA inventory when he was flying and had flown it a  lot.  Anyway our talk was about the difference I felt while there and  contrasted to here in a residential airpark community.  Here they are  neighbors with all our imperfections and all the neighborhood  intrigues. There it is all airplanes and friends.  Nearby there is a pizza  spot and you never see the guys during lunchtime as they are together once again  there.  Building at home can be a lonely experience.
  Lowell
   
 
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  Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are happy to be  back in the air!
  By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his underwear for  a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox doesn't have  much room to talk...right Lynn?
   I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies  hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example a few  weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who had an off field  landing in a cow filled field amongst an area filled with trees. He called us on  his cell phone.
   The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a nice  job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was finding him, but we did  it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew."
   A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft  was rapidly disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a  snack! Buddies are good to have !!!
   Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the  enjoyment and utility of my aircraft!
                                          
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                                                                     Milton,Fl
                                                                     Fox 4, 912UL
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Jan,
  Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on the  spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking about  insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get liability  coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response was, "I think  I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That would  really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is that she  would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has the financial  flexibility.  There might just be motive though.  She is a flight  attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At least she knows  where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
  Lowell
   
 
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  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
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  Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the  Air
  
 
  Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in  the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman,  but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law  say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in  his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
   
  Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to  figure out.
   
  Jan
  www.jcpropellerdesign.com
   
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane,  
 Dick. : )
 
 At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of  
 which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does)  : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062
 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
 Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Let me add my kudos to the list you have Lowell! I know you are  
  happy to be back in the air!
  By the way, don't mind Lynn. Anybody that runs around in his  
  underwear for a picture in a nice magazine article about his Kitfox  
  doesn't have much room to talk...right Lynn?
   I certainly understand your "hanger mate' with all his buddies  
  hanging around as that is what we have at our airport.As an example  
  a few weeks ago we had to rally and go find a friend of ours who  
  had an off field landing in a cow filled field amongst an area  
  filled with trees. He called us on his cell phone.
   The Hirth engine blew a spark plug out of its hole and he did a  
  nice job of landing the Hornet he was flying. The problem was  
  finding him, but we did it with a friends Champ and our "ground crew."
   A few beers were tipped later after the aircraft was rapidly  
  disassembled and removed before the cows decided to have a snack!  
  Buddies are good to have !!!
   Congratulations again Lowell! Your genius has sure added to the  
  enjoyment and utility of my aircraft!
 
                                                                     
  Dick Maddux
                                                                     
  Milton,Fl
                                                                     
  Fox 4, 912UL
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		redrocketrider
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Sorry guys!~  But I've  been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL  in  Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR  hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our  Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love  airplanes and cars!
  Toodie
  KF4-1200
  High Sierras  CA
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
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    Jan,
    Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on    the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking    about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get    liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response was,    "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That would    really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is that she    would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has the    financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.  She is a    flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At least she    knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
    Lowell
       
 
       From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in    the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman,    but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law    say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury    in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
     
    Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to    figure out.
     
    Jan
    www.jcpropellerdesign.com
     
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		Guy Buchanan
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:00 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane, Dick. : )   
    
  At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does)  : )  | 	   
  I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda handy.    
  
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  Now a glider pilot, too.
  
  
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				On 9/21/2012 8:38 AM, rtmarshall wrote:  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Sorry guys!~  But I've been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL  in Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love airplanes and cars! | 	   
  I knew that was going to happen.
  
  Guy Buchanan
  Ramona, CA
  Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
  Now a glider pilot, too.
  
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Toodie, Glad for your note.  Julie Clark as  a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely  appreciated.  You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras.  Folks  ask the significance of my N number N338S.  The Sierra is explained above  and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say.  And maybe the fact that  they all have nice curves might mean something too.
  Lowell
 
    From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the  Air
  
 
  Sorry guys!~  But I've  been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL  in  Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR  hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our  Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love  airplanes and cars!
  Toodie
  KF4-1200
  High Sierras  CA
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Jan,
    Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on    the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking    about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get    liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response was,    "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That would    really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is that she    would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has the    financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.  She is a    flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At least she    knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
    Lowell
       
 
       From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in    the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman,    but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law    say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury    in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
     
    Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to    figure out.
     
    Jan
    www.jcpropellerdesign.com
     
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Every rule have an ...  aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of  you.
   
  Jan
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				I carry one of those hospital-supplied plastic "catch cans" in my  
 'fox.....one day I was flying over a lake in Ohio and watching all  
 the waterskiers, etc., and suddenly it hit me that I had to  
 go....BAD! So I adjusted myself and the catch can (intergalactic  
 docking?) and somehow the plane started to dive..I had nudged the  
 stick a bit with the catch can. When telling my flight instructor  
 about this, I got to the part about the plane diving, and he said "it  
 changed the CG THAT much?"  We had a good chuckle....
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062
 Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
 Status: flying with 1362 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
 do not archive
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   On 9/21/2012 8:27 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
 > I was just practicing for keeping everything light in the plane,  
 > Dick. : )
 >
 > At least it wasn't a picture of me in my Depends....(the wearing  
 > of which hasn't happened yet, and here's hoping it never does)  : )
 
  I dunno. After 4 1/2 hours in the airplane they come in kinda  
  handy.  
 
  Guy Buchanan
  Ramona, CA
  Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
  Now a glider pilot, too.
 
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		redrocketrider
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Thanks..............wish  there were more women flying too.  I grew up with the guys we were all  young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with  kindness.  In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the  help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air.  Fun times, things  have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying  the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than  expected!  
   
  I love hangar  flying..........we did it a lot after soaring!  I was teasing about  Bob................he is at our hangar more than me.  LOL!
  Toodie
  KF-4 1200  O02   Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep.
   
  [quote]      From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Every rule have an ...  aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of    you.
     
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		redrocketrider
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Back in the AirBack in the Air | 
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				Do you happen to know Bob  McKay?  He is older now and I don’t think he flies any more but did a lot  at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David  Prather?  He lives on C Park too so does Bob.  
  Yep curves are always  nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those  would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point.  Life goes  on...........  Very Nice job, a real beauty!!  Toodie
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    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Toodie, Glad for your note.  Julie Clark    as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely    appreciated.  You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras.  Folks    ask the significance of my N number N338S.  The Sierra is explained above    and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say.  And maybe the fact    that they all have nice curves might mean something too.
    Lowell
 
          From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Sorry guys!~  But    I've been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL     in Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR    hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our    Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love    airplanes and cars!
    Toodie
    KF4-1200
    High Sierras    CA
    [quote]          From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
 
      
 
      Jan,
      Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on      the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking      about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get      liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response      was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That      would really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is      that she would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has      the financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.       She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At      least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
      Lowell
           
 
           From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
      
 
      Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit      in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with      woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my      brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car"      He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
       
      Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard      to figure out.
       
      Jan
      www.jcpropellerdesign.com
       
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				I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and it  looks like you are on the East slope.  Probably an hour flight from here,  but my guess four hours or more by car.  Real neighbors though, by  comparison.  I envy the two passionate at home.  My other is  supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in  the little one again.  Her favorite is the B-747.
  Lowell
   
 
   From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the  Air
  
 
  Thanks..............wish  there were more women flying too.  I grew up with the guys we were all  young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with  kindness.  In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the  help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air.  Fun times, things  have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later years flying  the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than  expected!  
   
  I love hangar  flying..........we did it a lot after soaring!  I was teasing about  Bob................he is at our hangar more than me.  LOL!
  Toodie
  KF-4 1200  O02   Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep.
   
  [quote]      From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Every rule have an ...  aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of    you.
     
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				Don't know any of them well.  I tend to be a  hangar rat and don't get up the street much.  They are all on Boeing  Rd.  I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would know  them better.  My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did final  assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San  Ramon.
  Lowell
   
 
   From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:55 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the  Air
  
 
  Do you happen to know Bob  McKay?  He is older now and I don’t think he flies any more but did a lot  at our gliderport in Livermore, glider pilot and tow pilot too. Also, David  Prather?  He lives on C Park too so does Bob.  
  Yep curves are always  nice............fun to race with curves in the race course....of course those  would be the Historic Car Races....Laguna Seca....Sears Point.  Life goes  on...........  Very Nice job, a real beauty!!  Toodie
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:04 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Toodie, Glad for your note.  Julie Clark    as a neighbor, so have the frequent reminder that our hobby is widely    appreciated.  You say High Sierras, I am in the Low Sierras.  Folks    ask the significance of my N number N338S.  The Sierra is explained above    and the 338 is a number that I found easy to say.  And maybe the fact    that they all have nice curves might mean something too.
    Lowell
 
          From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:38 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Sorry guys!~  But    I've been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL     in Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR    hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our    Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love    airplanes and cars!
    Toodie
    KF4-1200
    High Sierras    CA
    [quote]          From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
 
      
 
      Jan,
      Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on      the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking      about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get      liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response      was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That      would really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is      that she would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has      the financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.       She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At      least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
      Lowell
           
 
           From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
      
 
      Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit      in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with      woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my      brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car"      He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
       
      Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard      to figure out.
       
      Jan
      www.jcpropellerdesign.com
       
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				Due southwest of Reno....17  miles to Hwy 395.  Big valley here.  You're right flying in the Rocket  we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee  driving  another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via  Hwy 49 now there a road with curves!  
   
  That's a shame....the fox  is really fun just kinda slow!  After the Rocket anything is slow!   Boooo  B-747 toooo big!  But that makes us all different......and  exciting.
  Toodie
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and    it looks like you are on the East slope.  Probably an hour flight from    here, but my guess four hours or more by car.  Real neighbors though, by    comparison.  I envy the two passionate at home.  My other is    supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in    the little one again.  Her favorite is the B-747.
    Lowell
       
 
       From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Thanks..............wish    there were more women flying too.  I grew up with the guys we were all    young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with    kindness.  In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the    help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air.  Fun times,    things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later    years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than    expected!  
     
    I love hangar    flying..........we did it a lot after soaring!  I was teasing about    Bob................he is at our hangar more than me.  LOL!
    Toodie
    KF-4 1200  O02     Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep.
     
    [quote]          From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
 
      
 
      Every rule have an ...  aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of      you.
       
      Jan
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				Okay, if it was before 1989  our glider field was at the outer marker for LVK......just adjacent to LLNL  where a lot of the pilots worked.  Hummingbird Haven....named for the first  tandem 2 place motorglider.  Club had to relocate once again  to Byron (old airport) then moved to the new bigger one. We lived on Old  School Rd. at the turn on Tassajara Rd. then out in the country....not so  now.  Blackhawk came later. Probably knew some of the same  people....had a C-206T at LVK.
  Toodie
   
   
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:39 PM
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    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Don't know any of them well.  I tend to be    a hangar rat and don't get up the street much.  They are all on Boeing    Rd.  I am sure if I drove past their places coming and going, I would    know them better.  My first Model IV passed through Livermore (LVK) I did    final assembly there then we moved to Cameron Park. Our Home was in San    Ramon.
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				Had to laugh again. Highway 49.  We took  that "once" to go east on 80 and it was the first and only time I have ever  gotten motion sickness while behind the wheel.  Never again.
  Lowell
   
 
   From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:57 PM
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the  Air
  
 
  Due southwest of Reno....17  miles to Hwy 395.  Big valley here.  You're right flying in the Rocket  we were there in less than an hour......hour to Truckee  driving  another hr to Auburn then over to your area another hr. via  Hwy 49 now there a road with curves!  
   
  That's a shame....the fox  is really fun just kinda slow!  After the Rocket anything is slow!   Boooo  B-747 toooo big!  But that makes us all different......and  exciting.
  Toodie
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:28 PM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    I just checked Beckwourth on Google Earth and    it looks like you are on the East slope.  Probably an hour flight from    here, but my guess four hours or more by car.  Real neighbors though, by    comparison.  I envy the two passionate at home.  My other is    supportive, but after the Lynn tease thing, she says she probably won't fly in    the little one again.  Her favorite is the B-747.
    Lowell
       
 
       From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:07 PM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Thanks..............wish    there were more women flying too.  I grew up with the guys we were all    young and fit in fine with everyone treating each other with    kindness.  In the 50's the gliders were old big clunkers and needed the    help of all of us in order to get one guy up in the air.  Fun times,    things have drastically changed in that sport, so here we are in our later    years flying the KF....which by the way thermals and soars... much better than    expected!  
     
    I love hangar    flying..........we did it a lot after soaring!  I was teasing about    Bob................he is at our hangar more than me.  LOL!
    Toodie
    KF-4 1200  O02     Beckwourth CA. AOPA ASN Rep.
     
    [quote]          From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:20 AM
      To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
      Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the      Air
 
      
 
      Every rule have an ...  aha Welcome on board. It is just to few of      you.
       
      Jan
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				Toodie, any more like you at home?   
 Mike G.
 Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6-3/4
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 On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM, "rtmarshall" <rtav8or2(at)psln.com (rtav8or2(at)psln.com)> wrote:
 
 [quote]       Sorry guys!~  But I've  been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL  in  Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR  hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our  Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love  airplanes and cars!
  Toodie
  KF4-1200
  High Sierras  CA
  [quote]      From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
 
    
 
    Jan,
    Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on    the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking    about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get    liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response was,    "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That would    really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is that she    would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has the    financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.  She is a    flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At least she    knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
    Lowell
       
 
       From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
    Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
    To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
    Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the    Air
    
 
    Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in    the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman,    but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law    say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury    in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
     
    Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to    figure out.
     
    Jan
    www.jcpropellerdesign.com
     
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				Toodie,
 You are a true inspiration, flying for over 50 years!! Wow!! Women in aviation 50 years ago was not a common thing, good for you going against the grain. My daughter is 14 and loves to fly with me, she loves it when we get into the turbulent stuff (I don’t so much) she will take the stick of the FK for a while and fly, but it is not as easy for her to handle / TO / Land as say a 150, but we have a good time, she is my flying buddy. 
  
 Lloyd Cudnohufsky
 Rebuilt Model 5 Outback Flying
 912UL IVO IFA
 Northern Michigan
  
 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rtmarshall
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:39 AM
 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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 Sorry guys!~  But I've been flying for over 50 years!  Started as a 14 year old GIRL  in Gliders!  And I raced cars!  We have a Mercedes in OUR hangar!  I let my husband sit in the hangar to work on our Kitfox..........................we've owned many airplanes etc.  I love airplanes and cars!
 
 Toodie
 
 KF4-1200
 
 High Sierras CA
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 From: Lowell Fitt (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net) 
 
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25 AM
 
 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air
  
 
 Jan,
 
 Had to laugh.  The philosophy - right on the spot.  My wife, though has been really supportive.  Talking about insurance one day, I mentioned  that I would likely just get liability coverage because it was much less expensive.  Her response was, "I think I'd pay for the full coverage".  From me - "That would really hurt my budget".  What she was actually saying is that she would pay the premium.  She is not yet retired and still has the financial flexibility.  There might just be motive though.  She is a flight attendant for UAL and is gone fifteen days a month.  At least she knows where I am when she is in Shanghai or Sydney.
 
 Lowell
 
  
 
 From: JC Propeller Design (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se) 
 
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:46 AM
 
 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Re: Back in the AirBack in the Air
 
  
 
 Friends, good friends and airplanes, good things to have, nice to sit in the hangar talking to the airplane and buddies, nothing wrong with woman, but they hardly understand the beauty of an aircraft. Or as my brother in law say, "the more I learn about woman, the more I love my car" He have a Mercury in his hangar, I mean garage. he is a car only guy.
 
  
 
 Propellers is more like woman, nice curves, nice to look at, but hard to figure out.
 
  
 
 Jan
 
 www.jcpropellerdesign.com
 
  
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