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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Could someone please remind me what type of plastic the tank is made of ?
Many thanks,
Karl
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:48 am Post subject: fuel tank |
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Hi Karl!
LowDensityPolyEthelyne (LDPE) as I understand it.
The material requires "fluorination" to become less porous to the fuel and prevent swelling and cracking.
Cheers,
Pete
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[quote] Could someone please remind me what type of plastic the tank is made of ?
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Karl
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wdaniell(at)etb.net.co
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: fuel tank |
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How do you flourinate? I don't suppose you can do it with the tank already in??
I am slightly wondering whether, before I put my top on to do "something" about the tank having heard several horror stories. I would be gutted to fill up my nice finished aeroplane and to see a puddle on the tarmac. This moment previously completely theoretical is still a way off but it is actually becoming a reality that I might finish one day
Any thoughts anyone?
Will
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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: fuel tank |
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Hi Will,
Indeed the tank as received from Europa is Fluorinated, albeit to a lower level in my tank's case to what I managed to arrange by a US treatment factory. You can see my request out to the group for interested builders to share in the expense, but found none so I went ahead and paid their high minimum lot fee. If there were a bunch of tanks (and cobras) it could have cost as little as $40/tank. The process is done in a temp/pressure controlled chamber, and the tank must be free of contaminants to avoid being damaged in the process.
Mine came back with a 'thick frost' textured finish, and was done to the same level as the do for the auto industryy to meet the evaporative emissions requirements.
The contact info was:
Neal Christopher
Plant Manager
Fluoro-Seal International
29 Royal Drive
Forest Park, GA 30297
Ph: [url=tel:404-363-0008]404-363-0008[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:404-363-9611]404-363-9611[/url]
E-Mail: 60Atlanta(at)fsicorp.com (60Atlanta(at)fsicorp.com)
Web: www.fluoroseal.com
Transforming Plastics. Making the Impossible Possible
Cheers,
Pete
PS- if anyone endevours to get their tanks done, I'd love to jump into the order, with a small motorcycle plastic gas tank that I have not yet installed 
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:31 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell(at)etb.net.co (wdaniell(at)etb.net.co)> wrote:
[quote] How do you flourinate? I don't suppose you can do it with the tank already in??
I am slightly wondering whether, before I put my top on to do "something" about the tank having heard several horror stories. I would be gutted to fill up my nice finished aeroplane and to see a puddle on the tarmac. This moment previously completely theoretical is still a way off but it is actually becoming a reality that I might finish one day
Any thoughts anyone?
WillFrom: Peter Zutrauen <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com (peterz(at)zutrasoft.com)>
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Subject: Re: fuel tank
Hi Karl!
LowDensityPolyEthelyne (LDPE) as I understand it.
The material requires "fluorination" to become less porous to the fuel and prevent swelling and cracking.
Cheers,
Pete
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Karl Heindl <kheindl(at)msn.com (kheindl(at)msn.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Could someone please remind me what type of plastic the tank is made of ?
Many thanks,
Karl
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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: fuel tank |
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oh, forgot to mention, the treatment must be done *after* all cutouts are complete, as *any* open fresh cut edge will allow the fuel to soak into the LDPE regardless of the surface treatment. This was made very clear to me by Fluoro-Seal Int.. This could be one reason why the factory's process is not very effective - besides the lower-level of fluorination which was used - at least for my tank circa 2001.
as for the effectiveness - I cannot say, as I still have a pile of parts 
Cheers
Pete
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Peter Zutrauen <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com (peterz(at)zutrasoft.com)> wrote:
[quote]Hi Will,
Indeed the tank as received from Europa is Fluorinated, albeit to a lower level in my tank's case to what I managed to arrange by a US treatment factory. You can see my request out to the group for interested builders to share in the expense, but found none so I went ahead and paid their high minimum lot fee. If there were a bunch of tanks (and cobras) it could have cost as little as $40/tank. The process is done in a temp/pressure controlled chamber, and the tank must be free of contaminants to avoid being damaged in the process.
Mine came back with a 'thick frost' textured finish, and was done to the same level as the do for the auto industryy to meet the evaporative emissions requirements.
The contact info was:
Neal Christopher
Plant Manager
Fluoro-Seal International
29 Royal Drive
Forest Park, GA 30297
Ph: [url=tel:404-363-0008]404-363-0008[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:404-363-9611]404-363-9611[/url]
E-Mail: 60Atlanta(at)fsicorp.com (60Atlanta(at)fsicorp.com)
Web: www.fluoroseal.com
Transforming Plastics. Making the Impossible Possible
Cheers,
Pete
PS- if anyone endevours to get their tanks done, I'd love to jump into the order, with a small motorcycle plastic gas tank that I have not yet installed
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:31 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell(at)etb.net.co (wdaniell(at)etb.net.co)> wrote:
| Quote: | How do you flourinate? I don't suppose you can do it with the tank already in??
I am slightly wondering whether, before I put my top on to do "something" about the tank having heard several horror stories. I would be gutted to fill up my nice finished aeroplane and to see a puddle on the tarmac. This moment previously completely theoretical is still a way off but it is actually becoming a reality that I might finish one day
Any thoughts anyone?
WillFrom: Peter Zutrauen <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com (peterz(at)zutrasoft.com)>
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:47:35 -0500
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)<europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)>; Karl Heindl<kheindl(at)msn.com (kheindl(at)msn.com)>
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Subject: Re: fuel tank
Hi Karl!
LowDensityPolyEthelyne (LDPE) as I understand it.
The material requires "fluorination" to become less porous to the fuel and prevent swelling and cracking.
Cheers,
Pete
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Karl Heindl <kheindl(at)msn.com (kheindl(at)msn.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Could someone please remind me what type of plastic the tank is made of ?
Many thanks,
Karl
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