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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Fwd: Perry propeller and 582 bluehead Reply with quote

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[quote]Hi group!

I have put on an old Perryprop on my Pulsar 1 with 582 bluehead engine while my Ivoprop have an broken planetgear in the adjustmentsystem.

The ratio in my gearbox 1:2,24 changed from standard 1:2,58 when putting on the Ivoprop.

When I tested the Perry on the ground I got a static rpm on 6400 rpm.

-Will I overrev my engine during takeoff ( max 6800 rpm) with this combination?
-With 6800 rpm and reduction 2,24 I will get a prop turning at 3035rpm. Is this a rpm for this
propeller within its limits?

Best regards

Torstein
Oslo Norway

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:05 am    Post subject: Fwd: Perry propeller and 582 bluehead Reply with quote

Hi Torstein
Aero Designs supplied Pulsar 1 582 with gearbox ratio 1:2.00 up to about mid 1992 (using the Peery Prop of 54"dia and 44" pitch)
So with this ratio, the Peery prop should withstand 3400 RPM.

Then from about mid 1992 the gearbox ratio was 1:2.24 and supplied with a 56" dia and 54" pitch prop (GSC prop) .

Max RPM of the 582/blue is 6800. Best not to exceed this RPM.

Your static RPM should be between 5800 to 6200 RPM. Your present static 6400 RPM is a bit high (fine pitch).

Here in the UK we have approval to use the Warp Drive (ground adjustable) prop.

I am not aware of anyone here in the UK flying with the Peery Prop. If they are, then they would have to have the 1:2.00 ratio gearbox.

Regards
Alan Gill
UK Pulsar Squadron Support



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[quote]Hi group!

I have put on an old Perryprop on my Pulsar 1 with 582 bluehead engine while my Ivoprop have an broken planetgear in the adjustmentsystem.

The ratio in my gearbox 1:2,24 changed from standard 1:2,58 when putting on the Ivoprop.

When I tested the Perry on the ground I got a static rpm on 6400 rpm.

-Will I overrev my engine during takeoff ( max 6800 rpm) with this combination?
-With 6800 rpm and reduction 2,24 I will get a prop turning at 3035rpm. Is this a rpm for this
propeller within its limits?

Best regards

Torstein
Oslo Norway

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Fwd: Perry propeller and 582 bluehead Reply with quote

Allan!
Thank you so much for a very good answer of my mail.
What about the Warp Drive compared with the Perry 54/44 inch and the GSC 56 Inch during climb Vy and
cruise 75 %.
Thanks!
Torstein R

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[quote]Hi Torstein
Aero Designs supplied Pulsar 1 582 with gearbox ratio 1:2.00 up to about mid 1992 (using the Peery Prop of 54"dia and 44" pitch)
So with this ratio, the Peery prop should withstand 3400 RPM.

Then from about mid 1992 the gearbox ratio was 1:2.24 and supplied with a 56" dia and 54" pitch prop (GSC prop) .

Max RPM of the 582/blue is 6800. Best not to exceed this RPM.

Your static RPM should be between 5800 to 6200 RPM. Your present static 6400 RPM is a bit high (fine pitch).

Here in the UK we have approval to use the Warp Drive (ground adjustable) prop.

I am not aware of anyone here in the UK flying with the Peery Prop. If they are, then they would have to have the 1:2.00 ratio gearbox.

Regards
Alan Gill
UK Pulsar Squadron Support



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Hi group!

I have put on an old Perryprop on my Pulsar 1 with 582 bluehead engine while my Ivoprop have an broken planetgear in the adjustmentsystem.

The ratio in my gearbox 1:2,24 changed from standard 1:2,58 when putting on the Ivoprop.

When I tested the Perry on the ground I got a static rpm on 6400 rpm.

-Will I overrev my engine during takeoff ( max 6800 rpm) with this combination?
-With 6800 rpm and reduction 2,24 I will get a prop turning at 3035rpm. Is this a rpm for this
propeller within its limits?

Best regards

Torstein
Oslo Norway

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Fwd: Perry propeller and 582 bluehead Reply with quote

Hi Torstein

The approved UK Warp Drive prop used here in the UK is a  56 inch dia, 2 blade, constant speed planform with heavy duty hub. Rotax 582 "B" gearbox ratio of 2:1. They set the blades at about 13 degree pitch. (the blades are ground adjustable) Those that are operating on marginal airfield strip, set their blades accordingly. So your Vy will depend on what degree you set the prop blades at, and try to stay with-in the static engine RPM of 5800 to 6200.

A hint on the Rotax 582 in the Pulsar 1. Your MINIMUM RPM should be set at 2000 RPM (the engine will shake a lot at this setting) However, your IDLE RPM should be 3000 RPM , where the engine should run smoothly - if not, then the carburettors may need balancing.

Regards ...> Alan




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Allan!
Thank you so much for a very good answer of my mail.
What about the Warp Drive compared with the Perry 54/44 inch and the GSC 56 Inch during climb Vy and
cruise 75 %.
Thanks!
Torstein R

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Den 5. nov. 2012 kl. 11:04 skrev Alan Gill <alan99gill(at)yahoo.co.uk (alan99gill(at)yahoo.co.uk)>:

Quote:
Hi Torstein
Aero Designs supplied Pulsar 1 582 with gearbox ratio 1:2.00 up to about mid 1992 (using the Peery Prop of 54"dia and 44" pitch)
So with this ratio, the Peery prop should withstand 3400 RPM.

Then from about mid 1992 the gearbox ratio was 1:2.24 and supplied with a 56" dia and 54" pitch prop (GSC prop) .

Max RPM of the 582/blue is 6800. Best not to exceed this RPM.

Your static RPM should be between 5800 to 6200 RPM. Your present static 6400 RPM is a bit high (fine pitch).

Here in the UK we have approval to use the Warp Drive (ground adjustable) prop.
 
I am not aware of anyone here in the UK flying with the Peery Prop. If they are, then they would have to have the 1:2.00 ratio gearbox.

Regards
Alan Gill
UK Pulsar Squadron Support



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Hi group!

I have put on an old Perryprop on my Pulsar 1 with 582 bluehead engine while my Ivoprop have an broken planetgear in the adjustmentsystem.

The ratio in my gearbox 1:2,24 changed from standard 1:2,58 when putting on the Ivoprop.

When I tested the Perry on the ground I got a static rpm on 6400 rpm.

-Will I overrev my engine during takeoff ( max 6800 rpm) with this combination?
-With 6800 rpm and reduction 2,24 I will get a prop turning at 3035rpm. Is this a rpm for this
propeller within its limits?

Best regards

Torstein
Oslo Norway

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