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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Don't forget that the Jackson, Michigan (JXN) Pancake Breakfast Fly-in 

and Cruise-in happens this Sunday, June 11.  All you west-coasters, 

have fun at Lowell's Cameron Park fly-in, and those of you closer to 

the east coast might want to think about coming to the 38th Annual 

all-you-can-eat pancake breakfast, combined with the 1st annual 

"east-of-the-Rockies" Kitfox get-together (official name to be chosen 

later) for fun and whatever. This is an all-weekend event (the fly-in 

is Sunday only) which is described on sportflight.com under 

fly-in/airshows. (The file is HUGE...sorry about that.) The breakfast 

is held in the EAA hangar...you won't get wet perchance it rains. We'd 

like to see as many Kitfoxes as possible. Let's try to out-number the 

metal monsters, if possible. If you don't have a Kitfox, jump into your 

favorite experimental (or whatever) and come join us.



There will be cars, motorcycles, trucks, model airplanes.... 25 

automobile trophies to be awarded, as well as a genuine leather flight 

jacket to be raffled off at 2 pm, Sunday. Besides the breakfast, other 

food is available on-site, and DJ music will be played.



Questions? Give me a holler....



Lynn

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ruebd(at)skymail.csus.edu
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Lynn:



	Here on the left coast we have enough problems with scheduling

already, since June 10 is the date of both Lowell Fitt's barbecue fly-in

and the EAA Golden West fly-in at Marysville.  Although it is probably

not practical for one airplane to make a showing at both, due to

arrival/departure control, by driving to them, one could do so.  I am

considering it, especially since I am not through with either my

checkout in mine nor the service session that it is now undergoing.  I

know this is not what it is really all about, but wouldn't that be

better than missing one or the other or both?



Duane Rueb



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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Thanks for the plug for our fly-in.  If the forcast is accurate, we appear 

to be in the running for the best weather ever - high 80's and clear with 

light winds.



I wish I could be at the Michigan event and hope that another later in the 

Summer might be in order.  I really enjoy putting faces on the names I have 

come to recognize here on the list.  I have a mental picture of all of you, 

but so far not once have I been close in my mental guess, but maybe 

someday...



Lowell

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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Lynn, 

    I plan to be there Sunday! I'll be coming from 57D (Ray Community) which is about 20 miles north of Detroit. We're pretty close to Selfridge Air National Guard base. Anybody else going? 

Rex Phelps Model 3 

  

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		   --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>



 Don't forget that the Jackson, Michigan (JXN) Pancake Breakfast Fly-in and 

 Cruise-in happens this Sunday, June 11.  All you west-coasters, have fun 

 at Lowell's Cameron Park fly-in, and those of you closer to the east coast 

 might want to think about coming to the 38th Annual all-you-can-eat 

 pancake breakfast, combined with the 1st annual "east-of-the-Rockies" 

 Kitfox get-together (official name to be chosen later) for fun and 

 whatever. This is an all-weekend event (the fly-in is Sunday only) which 

 is described on sportflight.com under fly-in/airshows. (The file is 

 HUGE...sorry about that.) The breakfast is held in the EAA hangar...you 

 won't get wet perchance it rains. We'd like to see as many Kitfoxes as 

 possible. Let's try to out-number the metal monsters, if possible. If you 

 don't have a Kitfox, jump into your favorite experimental (or whatever) 

 and come join us.



 There will be cars, motorcycles, trucks, model airplanes.... 25 automobile 

 trophies to be awarded, as well as a genuine leather flight jacket to be 

 raffled off at 2 pm, Sunday. Besides the breakfast, other food is 

 available on-site, and DJ music will be played.



 Questions? Give me a holler....



 Lynn





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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

.Thanks for the post, Duane.  And sorry for the confict created by the 

overlapping date.



 I might mention some of the thinking regarding our date.  First, It has 

always been on the second Saturday in June with one exception.  One year 

FOCA (Friends of Cameron Park Airport) scheduled thier street fair on the 

second Saturday.  We had six months notice and decided that safety concerns 

dictated a date with fewer non flyers on the airpark street / taxiways. 

Golden West has bounced around a bit on dates as has their venue and they 

have not been in the habit of announcing dates early.  They seem to still be 

somewhat in the gestation stage.



I had heard rumors in the past that they wanted us to feed Kitfoxes to their 

fly-in, but until this year it was only rumors.  I did get a call a couple 

of months ago from a woman I knew from the Hangtown Chapter of EAA asking if 

I could do just that.  As politely as I could, I asked what there would be 

there for us, i.e, why will we want to go.  I got no specific response. 

Then I gave my reason for the question.  About 4 years ago, I took my 

airplane there early on Friday and left it until late Sunday afternoon.  I 

entered my Model IV for judging.  I probably had as many judge initials on 

my prop card as any other airplane there.  I was pretty excited.  When they 

announced the awards they were in four divisions as I recall, Warbird, 

Certified, Antique and Homebuilt.  They awarded First, Second and Third 

places in the four catagories.  The winners in the homebuilt division were 

all professionally finished plastic airplanes - you all have seem them. 

Incidentally, I don't recall another Kitfox there, I drove home each night, 

but spent all three days there.



I asked if this year there would be a tube and fabric judging division, she 

said, "I doubt it".  She then said that if I were to promise a certain 

number of Kitfoxes next year, she would promise a judging award for our 

type.  In other words it seemed that if we promised to appear, they would do 

something for us. Sort of reverse marketing - we have to market ourselves to 

them.



This woman is active on the Lacair builders list - actually her husband - 

and her next comment didn't surprise me.  She said that the homebuilt 

movement is moved by the most popular airplanes and that is why there was 

nothing planned for the low and slow types.  A quick check of the Golden 

West website confirmed my suspicions.  Their board of directors is dominated 

by builders and owners of flight level airplanes.  Pardon the venting, but 

has anyone compared Sport Pilot and Kitplanes magazines lately?  We are 

being pretty much ignored by the powers in EAA.



I considered this a bit and sort of concluded that the folks that can build 

and fly $200,000 airplanes are likely to be the ones that like to sit on the 

boards of organizations and it is not too curious that they see what they 

see, think what they think and get what they want.  I did agree to work with 

Golden West, I don't know how yet, to make the event more Kitfox friendly 

next year.  If it requires a date change for us, I don't see that as a 

problem.  But at present, I really don't see much of a conflict as they are 

two quite different events.



Lowell



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Yup, drive to both of 'em, Duane, and when the sun goes down, head on 

out to the sprint car races at Marysville...that's what I'd do if I 

still lived out there! Then grab the red-eye flight to DTW, give me a 

holler, and I'll pick you up and we'll go the JXN breakfast together. 

And if that's not enough of a crowded weekend, we could go on up to 

Otsego Lake for the annual Splash-in, and see all the Widgeons and 

other float planes.



Lynn

On Wednesday, June 7, 2006, at 05:49  PM, Rueb, Duane wrote:



[quote] 

 <ruebd(at)skymail.csus.edu>



 Lynn:



 	Here on the left coast we have enough problems with scheduling

 already, since June 10 is the date of both Lowell Fitt's barbecue 

 fly-in

 and the EAA Golden West fly-in at Marysville.  Although it is probably

 not practical for one airplane to make a showing at both, due to

 arrival/departure control, by driving to them, one could do so.  I am

 considering it, especially since I am not through with either my

 checkout in mine nor the service session that it is now undergoing.  I

 know this is not what it is really all about, but wouldn't that be

 better than missing one or the other or both?



 Duane Rueb



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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Hope to see you there, Rex...by the way, your Chapter has its meeting  

Thursday night, right? Maybe I can drive over there and put in a plug  

for the JXN thing.



Lynn

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On Wednesday, June 7, 2006, at 06:52  PM, Rexster wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Lynn,



     I plan to be there Sunday! I'll be coming from 57D (Ray Community)  

 which is about 20 miles north of Detroit. We're pretty close to  

 Selfridge Air National Guard base. Anybody else going?



 Rex Phelps Model 3



  



 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

 >

 > Don't forget that the Jackson, Michigan (JXN) Pancake Breakfast Fly- 

 in and 

 > Cruise-in happens this Sunday, June 11.  All you west- 

 coasters, have fun 

 > at Lowell's Cameron Park fly- 

 in, and those of you closer to the east coast 

 > might want to think about coming to the 38th Annual all-you-can-eat 

 > pancake breakfast, combined with the 1st annual "east-of-the- 

 Rockies" 

 > Kitfox get-together (official name to be chosen later) for fun and 

 > whatever. This is an all-weekend event (the fly- 

 in is Sunday only) which 

 > is described on sportflight.com under fly-in/airshows. (The file is 

 > HUGE...sorry about that.) The breakfast is held in the EAA hangar...y 

 ou 

 > won't get wet perchance it rains. We'd like to see as many Kitfoxes a 

 s 

 > possible. Let's try to out- 

 number the metal monsters, if possible. If you 

 > don't have a Kitfox, jump into your favorite experimental (or whateve 

 r) 

 > and come join us.

 >

 > There will be cars, motorcycles, trucks, model airplanes.... 25 autom 

 obile 

 > trophies to be awarded, as well as a genuine leather flight jacket to 

  be 

 > raffled off at 2 pm, Sunday. Besides the breakfast, other food is 

 > available on-site, and DJ music will be played.

 >

 > Questions? Give me a holler....

 >

 > Lynn

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List

 > http://wiki.matronics.com

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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

At 06:41 PM 6/7/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  This woman is active on the Lacair builders list - actually her husband - 

and her next comment didn't surprise me.  She said that the homebuilt 

movement is moved by the most popular airplanes...


	


Is that popular in dollars? Or popular in numbers? If the latter, I suspect 

the next five years will see the number of LSA overwhelm the fast glass 

machines. (Particularly at the rate the Lancair guys kill themselves. I 

just hope they don't kill the whole experimental movement in the process.)



 	  Quote: 	
		  Pardon the venting, but has anyone compared Sport Pilot and Kitplanes 

magazines lately?  We are being pretty much ignored by the powers in EAA.


	


Has anyone noticed that EAA NEVER mentions AOPA? Does anyone else think 

that EAA is trying to replace AOPA? Has anyone else noticed that EAA copies 

AOPA assiduously? (Insurance, flight planning, airport support, medical 

support.) Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between their two 

monthlies. I too wish EAA would stay with their core competency, and leave 

the (albeit necessary,) bureaucratic work to AOPA.



 	  Quote: 	
		  If it requires a date change for us, I don't see that as a problem.  But 

at present, I really don't see much of a conflict as they are two quite 

different events.


	


I could never do both, and would much prefer your fly-in to something like 

Golden-West.

Guy Buchanan

K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Hi Lynn, 

  Chapter 13 has their meetings the first Thursday of each month which was last Thursday on June 1st. I announced the JXN fly-in at that meeting. www.EAAchapter13.org. Keep your eyes open for me in the yellow Fox.  

Rex



-- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>



Hope to see you there, Rex...by the way, your Chapter has its meeting  

Thursday night, right? Maybe I can drive over there and put in a plug  

for the JXN thing.



Lynn

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On Wednesday, June 7, 2006, at 06:52  PM, Rexster wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Lynn,



     I plan to be there Sunday! I'll be coming from 57D (Ray Community)  

 which is about 20 miles north of Detroit. We're pretty close to  

 Selfridge Air National Guard base. Anybody else going?



 Rex Phelps Model 3



  



 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

 >

 > Don't forget that the Jackson, Michigan (JXN) Pancake Breakfast Fly- 

 in and 

 > Cruise-in happens this Sunday, June 11.  All you west- 

 coasters, have fun 

 > at Lowell's Cameron Park fly- 

 in, and those of you closer to the east coast 

 > might want to think about coming to the 38th Annual all-you-can-eat 

 > pancake breakfast, combined with the 1st annual "east-of-the- 

 Rockies" 

 > Kitfox get-together (official name to be chosen later) for fun and 

 > whatever. This is an all-weekend event (the fly- 

 in is Sunday only) which 

 > is described on sportflight.com under fly-in/airshows. (The file is 

 > HUGE...sorry about that.) The breakfast is held in the EAA hangar...y 

 ou 

 > won't get wet perchance it rains. We'd like to see as many Kitfoxes a 

 s 

 > possible. Let's try to out- 

 number the metal monsters, if possible. If you 

 > don't have a Kitfox, jump into your favorite experimental (or whateve 

 r) 

 > and come join us.

 >

 > There will be cars, motorcycles, trucks, model airplanes.... 25 autom 

 obile 

 > trophies to be awarded, as well as a genuine leather flight jacket to 

  be 

 > raffled off at 2 pm, Sunday. Besides the breakfast, other food is 

 > available on-site, and DJ music will be played.

 >

 > Questions? Give me a holler....

 >

 > Lynn

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List

 > http://wiki.matronics.com

 >

 >

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Dear Lowell:



	I see what you mean.  Don't we already have a 'magazine' for the

super rich pilots of the world in the form of the AOPA rag?  I thought

that the EAA was all about the kind of stuff that we work with,

basically affordable, fun aircraft, not potential rockets to the moon.

Yes, I agree with you that the focus on plastic, multi-hundred thousand

$ machines is not in the spirit of what the EAA says it is all about. 

	 At Oshkosh a wide spectrum of aviation is displayed, but

certainly has seemed always to welcome, and even to focus on planes that

are affordable to persons of middle class means.  So it seems now that

here at the Golden West, the low and slow airplanes have to be specially

accommodated rather than welcomed.  That is sad, and not evocative of

the spirit of the EAA that I believed I had joined.  



Thanks what you do for the Kitfox group, Duane



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Thanks for the heads-up, Rex....as it turns out, tonight is "gettin' my 

plane out to JXN night" as my instructor is heading out of town for the 

Splash-in up at Otsego Lake, and today is the only day that we can take 

it out for its appearance at the Sunday Fly-in. (I'm not ready for solo 

yet, let alone landing on JXN's paved runways.) I'll be somewhere in 

the parking area near the EAA hangar, which is on the SW corner of JXN. 

We are going to try to get all experimentals up close to the building, 

as this is what the EAA is all about (thanks for pointing that out, 

Duane).



Lynn

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On Thursday, June 8, 2006, at 05:12  AM, Rexster wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi Lynn,



   Chapter 13 has their meetings the first Thursday of each month which 

 was last Thursday on June 1st. I announced the JXN fly-in at that 

 meeting. www.EAAchapter13.org. Keep your eyes open for me in the 

 yellow Fox.



 Rex



 -- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>



 Hope to see you there, Rex...by the way, your Chapter has its meeting  

 Thursday night, right? Maybe I can drive over there and put in a plug  

 for the JXN thing.



 Lynn

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Richard Rabbers

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Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Photo of a proud and happy winner.

I'll leave the explaining to the subject.

I'm guessing he'll be along soon.

I'll include initials -  L.M.

It was a beautiful day in Jackson !!!

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Michigan Fly-in this Sunday

Shucks, Richard, I wasn't even gonna mention that part of the day. 

Actually folks, it was nice to grab some hardware even if I did have to 

do a lot of "campaigning" to get out the vote. I have to wonder 

though...was it the plane, or is the attraction the big number "3" on 

the tail? Whatever, I had a ball....I'm really liking this "airport 

rat" life.



We had a great turnout of really nice-looking planes, including 5 

Kitfoxes....3 IV's, a 5, and a 3, I believe. I'd like to thank Richard 

Rabbers, William Willyard, Rex Phelps, Alan Blind, John May, and one 

other 'fox owner who's name I did not catch/recognize...if he sees 

this, please get in touch. He lives near Brooklyn, MI....sorry about 

not catching your name.



What a great day! Perfect weather, good company, lots of interesting 

planes including a 50-year-old 172 Cessna, several AT-6's, a MIG jet 

that did some fly-overs....and one nearly fly-under as it appeared from 

where I stood...he really zoomed along the runway!  Custom cars were in 

attendance, as well as motorcycles, antique tractors, a radio-control 

display, good food and fun. Even with the competition of several other 

fly-ins in lower Michigan, we had a very successful turnout. Several 

pilots were planning on attending the other events, and we got some 

late arrivals from those other events.



My thanks again for all the 'foxer's that flew in or cruised in, and 

hopefully we can have a later-in-the-year get-together for those that 

couldn't make this one. Lowell, when are you planning to visit this 

area? We could try to plan something around your visit.



Lynn

p.s. I even made my first pavement landing in my 'fox the other night, 

with verbal help from my instructor....this time he wasn't swearing! He 

also told me that I must be getting better....he doesn't have to change 

his underwear as often after our lessons...I think that's a compliment.



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 Photo of a proud and happy winner.

 I'll leave the explaining to the subject.

 I'm guessing he'll be along soon.

 I'll include initials -  L.M.

 It was a beautiful day in Jackson !!!



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