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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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LOL!! FEEL THE LOVE AND THE PRIDE!!!!!!!
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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Looks like the majority of the lineup has a good story to tell.  If you want to draw more favor, tell a compelling story.  Where's the war footage  and stories of Red Star aircraft? Let's get that easily accessible.  I'd love to help with a coordinated PR campaign to help those of us that operate eastern block aircraft tell the story.
Do a better job with signage where the aircraft are displayed (again, telling the story). Â Â
The guys who operate american iron are more relatable because the story is in our history books, on TV, movies, etc. Â Tough to compete with it.
The sheep want to 'feel' something.
Cory.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Against the back fence and at the end of the program. We join the EAA, why?
http://www.airventure.org/attractions/warbirds-in-review.html
Blitz Fox415-307-2405
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:57 am Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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Red Headed Step Children...I rest my case!
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On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Against the back fence and at the end of the program. We join the EAA, why?
http://www.airventure.org/attractions/warbirds-in-review.html
Blitz Fox415-307-2405
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:15 am Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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Being parked against the back fence (called the "North Forty") has its advantages.
One; you're closer to the WB camping area accept for the "L" birds (who get no respect at all).
Two. You are the closest to the gate entrance we normally come in. The T-6 guys are parked just one role ahead of us. (BTW all the Mustangs are parks just 150 yard away on the grass also).
Three, When doing local flying we have the easiest in and out of tie-down of ANY of the WBs.
Four, we are the ones who usually flying the longest in the show. (First airborne last to land.)
I didn't know until just now that we will be featured in the WB form this year. It maybe that last day and the last program, but Sunday is a big crowd day and look who we share that form. I know Connie who sets that up just don't let any old WB group in there. There is limited time and space in that program. Airplanes and people are moved into and out of the presentation area. Its not a static place. One big problem is most WB groups (particularly RPA ) leave on Friday or Saturday. And WB participation (again particularly RPA) is sparse at best.
I've been going to OSH for over 17 years with my CJ. The group that welcomed us the most was the "L" bird guys and quite frankly championed our group. Its took years to get a spot for our tent "along the fence" and the powers that be at OSH accept us as part and parcel of the show. They show concern when we don't fly. They want us to have a good time. And except for a few paid staff, just about everyone there is and has been a volunteer for years.
America is always going to be "pro-American airplanes". Blame that on Hollywood. But Americans have always loved and respected the "underdog". So be the proud American Underdog. We won the cold war and these airplanes are the booty of that win. Believe me if you were in Lulabulastan with your AT-6 you'd be an underdog there.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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Pappy, I bow to superior experience.
Blitz Fox415-307-2405
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote] Being parked against the back fence (called the "North Forty") has its advantages.
One; you're closer to the WB camping area accept for the "L" birds (who get no respect at all).
Two. You are the closest to the gate entrance we normally come in. The T-6 guys are parked just one role ahead of us. (BTW all the Mustangs are parks just 150 yard away on the grass also).
Three, When doing local flying we have the easiest in and out of tie-down of ANY of the WBs.
Four, we are the ones who usually flying the longest in the show. (First airborne last to land.)
I didn't know until just now that we will be featured in the WB form this year. It maybe that last day and the last program, but Sunday is a big crowd day and look who we share that form. I know Connie who sets that up just don't let any old WB group in there. There is limited time and space in that program. Airplanes and people are moved into and out of the presentation area. Its not a static place. One big problem is most WB groups (particularly RPA ) leave on Friday or Saturday. And WB participation (again particularly RPA) is sparse at best.
I've been going to OSH for over 17 years with my CJ. The group that welcomed us the most was the "L" bird guys and quite frankly championed our group. Its took years to get a spot for our tent "along the fence" and the powers that be at OSH accept us as part and parcel of the show. They show concern when we don't fly. They want us to have a good time. And except for a few paid staff, just about everyone there is and has been a volunteer for years.
America is always going to be "pro-American airplanes". Blame that on Hollywood. But Americans have always loved and respected the "underdog". So be the proud American Underdog. We won the cold war and these airplanes are the booty of that win. Believe me if you were in Lulabulastan with your AT-6 you'd be an underdog there.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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All true and very well said, Pappy!
Sam Sax
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Being parked against the back fence (called the "North Forty") has its advantages.
One; you're closer to the WB camping area accept for the "L" birds (who get no respect at all).
Two. You are the closest to the gate entrance we normally come in. The T-6 guys are parked just one role ahead of us. (BTW all the Mustangs are parks just 150 yard away on the grass also).
Three, When doing local flying we have the easiest in and out of tie-down of ANY of the WBs.
Four, we are the ones who usually flying the longest in the show. (First airborne last to land.)
I didn't know until just now that we will be featured in the WB form this year. It maybe that last day and the last program, but Sunday is a big crowd day and look who we share that form. I know Connie who sets that up just don't let any old WB group in there. There is limited time and space in that program. Airplanes and people are moved into and out of the presentation area. Its not a static place. One big problem is most WB groups (particularly RPA ) leave on Friday or Saturday. And WB participation (again particularly RPA) is sparse at best.
I've been going to OSH for over 17 years with my CJ. The group that welcomed us the most was the "L" bird guys and quite frankly championed our group. Its took years to get a spot for our tent "along the fence" and the powers that be at OSH accept us as part and parcel of the show. They show concern when we don't fly. They want us to have a good time. And except for a few paid staff, just about everyone there is and has been a volunteer for years.
America is always going to be "pro-American airplanes". Blame that on Hollywood. But Americans have always loved and respected the "underdog". So be the proud American Underdog. We won the cold war and these airplanes are the booty of that win. Believe me if you were in Lulabulastan with your AT-6 you'd be an underdog there.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: RPA's EAA's Stepchild |
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Sheep? From Montana where the sheep are nervous.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Cory Robin <crobin(at)skyvantage.com (crobin(at)skyvantage.com)> wrote:
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Looks like the majority of the lineup has a good story to tell. If you want to draw more favor, tell a compelling story. Where's the war footage and stories of Red Star aircraft? Let's get that easily accessible. I'd love to help with a coordinated PR campaign to help those of us that operate eastern block aircraft tell the story.
Do a better job with signage where the aircraft are displayed (again, telling the story).
The guys who operate american iron are more relatable because the story is in our history books, on TV, movies, etc. Tough to compete with it.
The sheep want to 'feel' something.
Cory.
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