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		pnicholson
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:35 am    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				Good morning,
 I have two problems that may or may not be related.
 My CHT is lower than normal which requires me to be running the shutters closed occasionally; the temps appear colder than usual.  A little further back, my oil temps are running hotter than normal.  Seems a little counter-intuitive.
   
 
 Details:
 Cruise, 
 3500'
 75 degrees out...
 Any thoughts appreciated.
 Thanks,
  
 Phil Nicholson
 C-FEPN
 (Ontario)
  
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		keithmckinley
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				there are no details posted. a "little this" and a "bit more" are hard to use to make an informed analysis...just sayin'
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				I run with my shutters and oil door ¾ to fully closed when in temps 80 or lower except during
 a steep long climb.
  
 Tom Elliott
 CJ-6A NX63727
 777 Quartz Ave
 PMB 7004
 Sandy Valley NV
 89019
 Cell 541-297-5497
 N13472(at)AOL.COM
  
  
  
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Philip Nicholson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:33 AM
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 Subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 Good morning,
 
 I have two problems that may or may not be related.
 
 My CHT is lower than normal which requires me to be running the shutters closed occasionally; the temps appear colder than usual.  A little further back, my oil temps are running hotter than normal.  Seems a little counter-intuitive.
 
  
 
 Details:
 
 Cruise, 
 
 3500'
 
 75 degrees out...
 
 Any thoughts appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Phil Nicholson
 
 C-FEPN
 
 (Ontario)
 
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		richard.goode(at)russiana Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				In which case I suspect your engine is running significantly too rich and you're wasting quite a lot of money on fuel!
  
 I have no experience with the HS-6 engine, but would assume that the carburettor must be extremely similar to the Russian carburettor which contains what the Russians call a "suction" jet, but I would call "compensating" in which a smaller jet means more fuel. These come in a range from 1.1 to 2.0 mm; are very easy to change. The right jet should be installed based on its ability to keep cylinder temperatures in the right range, and for most engines this will reduce fuel consumption.
  
 Richard Goode
  
 Rhodds Farm 
 Lyonshall 
 Hereford 
 HR5 3LW 
 United Kingdom 
  Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
 Tel:   +44 (0) 1544 340120 
 Fax:  +44 (0) 1544 340129 
 www.russianaeros.com
 I’m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160.
 
  
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:31 PM
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 I run with my shutters and oil door ¾ to fully closed when in temps 80 or lower except during
 a steep long climb.
  
 Tom Elliott
 CJ-6A NX63727
 777 Quartz Ave
 PMB 7004
 Sandy Valley NV
 89019
 Cell 541-297-5497
 N13472(at)AOL.COM (N13472(at)AOL.COM)
  
  
  
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:33 AM
 To: Yak-List
 Subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 Good morning,
 
 I have two problems that may or may not be related.
 
 My CHT is lower than normal which requires me to be running the shutters closed occasionally; the temps appear colder than usual.  A little further back, my oil temps are running hotter than normal.  Seems a little counter-intuitive.
 
  
 
 Details:
 
 Cruise, 
 
 3500'
 
 75 degrees out...
 
 Any thoughts appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Phil Nicholson
 
 C-FEPN
 
 (Ontario)
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				Phil;
   
  I concur with Tom Elliot’s comments.   That is typical of CJ  operating temperatures.
  A little difficult to understand your problem. You show cruise at 3500 ft.  with a temperature of 75 degs. ??  Is that the OAT or the Oil Out temp.? If  it is Oil Out you are running far too cold. 
  Except in very hot weather it is difficult to maintain adequate Oil In  temperature.  Please clarify.
   
  Walt
     
   From: Philip Nicholson (pednicholson(at)gmail.com) 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:33 AM
  To: Yak-List (Yak-List(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
   
 
    Good morning,
  I have two problems that may or may not be related.
  My CHT is lower than normal which requires me to be running the shutters  closed occasionally; the temps appear colder than usual.  A little further  back, my oil temps are running hotter than normal.  Seems a little  counter-intuitive.
   
  Details:
  Cruise, 
  3500'
  75 degrees out...
  Any thoughts appreciated.
  Thanks,
   
  Phil Nicholson
  C-FEPN
  (Ontario)
 
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		keithmckinley
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				your CJ is only reading one cyl on the front gauge. The cyl head temps vary widely from cyl to cyl
 
 Do you know if your oil temp and or cyl head sensors and gauges are even indicating correctly?
 
 When was the last time you pulled and cleaned your oil cooler? Lot's of oil goes down there and picks up lots of dirt.
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				Not rich I have mixture control and EGT. At altitude can lean to lean of peak
  
 Tom Elliott
 CJ-6A NX63727
 777 Quartz Ave
 PMB 7004
 Sandy Valley NV
 89019
 Cell 541-297-5497
 N13472(at)AOL.COM
  
  
  
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:03 PM
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 In which case I suspect your engine is running significantly too rich and you're wasting quite a lot of money on fuel!
  
 I have no experience with the HS-6 engine, but would assume that the carburettor must be extremely similar to the Russian carburettor which contains what the Russians call a "suction" jet, but I would call "compensating" in which a smaller jet means more fuel. These come in a range from 1.1 to 2.0 mm; are very easy to change. The right jet should be installed based on its ability to keep cylinder temperatures in the right range, and for most engines this will reduce fuel consumption.
  
 Richard Goode
  
 Rhodds Farm 
 Lyonshall 
 Hereford 
 HR5 3LW 
 United Kingdom 
  Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
 Tel:   +44 (0) 1544 340120 
 Fax:  +44 (0) 1544 340129 
 www.russianaeros.com
 I’m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160.
 
  
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:31 PM
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: RE: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 I run with my shutters and oil door ¾ to fully closed when in temps 80 or lower except during
 a steep long climb.
  
 Tom Elliott
 CJ-6A NX63727
 777 Quartz Ave
 PMB 7004
 Sandy Valley NV
 89019
 Cell 541-297-5497
 N13472(at)AOL.COM (N13472(at)AOL.COM)
  
  
  
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Philip Nicholson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:33 AM
 To: Yak-List
 Subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem
  
 Good morning,
 
 I have two problems that may or may not be related.
 
 My CHT is lower than normal which requires me to be running the shutters closed occasionally; the temps appear colder than usual.  A little further back, my oil temps are running hotter than normal.  Seems a little counter-intuitive.
 
  
 
 Details:
 
 Cruise, 
 
 3500'
 
 75 degrees out...
 
 Any thoughts appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Phil Nicholson
 
 C-FEPN
 
 (Ontario)
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: CJ6 (Housai) temp problem | 
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				Phil,
 
 Keith might have a point.
 
 Did you check the accuracy of
 your Cyl.-head-temp gauge
 set-up???
 
 The lead from the thermocouple
 to the instrument has a fabric
 insulation what disintegrates over
 the years. If that happens your
 readings will be off and inaccurate(ly).
 
 As far as I remember, Doug Sapp has
 those leads in stock and that might be
 a cheap fix for your problem.
 
 Good luck.
 
 cheers
 
 Elmar
 
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