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				 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: OT: bad circuit breaker? | 
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				Final report on the air conditioner problem.  As I was       standing there watching the unit with the amp meter around the       wire to the compressor I saw it jump from about 9 amps (which was       too high anyway) and saw it jump to 16+ amps and then the breaker       opened.  The motor is shot.
        
        Thanks to everyone who consulted on this problem.
         	  | Quote: | 	 		  Raymond Julian
 Kettle River, MN.
 
 "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
 and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine  | 	         On 08/24/2013 10:10 PM, rayj wrote:
      
      [quote]              Ken,
            
            I've owned it since new and used it in the             same application for years.  It takes at               least 5 min and maybe more for the                 current to creep up.  It                     puts out cold air when it's running,                       so I'm guessing it's the compressor motor.  I gave                             it a good cleaning before I                               installed it this summer and it operated                               correctly for more than a month. It's a                               small window unit so if I can't                                     tinker it back to life it'll be less expensive                                       to replace than to have someone work on                                         it.                                I'll check everything you                                 mentioned.  Thanks very                                   much for the advice.  
                    	  | Quote: | 	 		  Raymond Julian
 Kettle River, MN.
 
 "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
 and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine  | 	           On 08/24/2013 09:51 PM, Ken wrote:
        
         	  | Quote: | 	 		  -->          AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman(at)albedo.net> (klehman(at)albedo.net)         
          
          Ray 
          
          I look for dirty condenser fins, slow turning fan, or dented         restricted high pressure line all of which cause high current. 
          
          Then I make sure the compressor really is starting and coming up         to speed. ie it is not just a bad starting capacitor or start         relay keeping the start winding running and tripping the breaker         in a few seconds after startup. There are several clues when         that happens but it may not be obvious as the compressor does         appear to start up. 
          
          If I don't own it I then advise replacing the unit. 
          
          If I do own it and it is expensive (or I feel like tinkering), I         start wondering about it's history and whether there is any         moisture in the refrigerant or someone has put the wrong         refrigerant in so I evacuate, dry, and put in new refrigerant.         Then I'd follow my advice to others in the above paragraph. 
          
          Ken 
          (no expert but I've done some HVAC work) 
          do not archive 
          
          On 24/08/2013 10:06 PM, rayj wrote: 
           	  | Quote: | 	 		  I've got the unit out.  I'll check, but           I'm willing to bet it's the 
            compressor.  I can't imagine the fan consuming that much           energy and not 
            self destructing. And something resets after a short while and           the cycle 
            starts over. 
            
            
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