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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:49 am    Post subject: 12V to 9V converter Reply with quote

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Bob, I have an old (30+ years) Hall variometer that I want to put in my trike. It's powered by 9V batteries so it seems an easy enough project to use a converter to power it off the dynamo on the HKS engine. 2 amps should be more than enough output. There are quite a few vendors on eBay that offer them for $2 or so. Do you have any favorite vendors for this kind of thing?

Rick Girard

What kind of 9v batteries? These things?

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More than one? How many and do you KNOW
they are in parallel and not series for
+/- supply to the electronics?



Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:14 am    Post subject: 12V to 9V converter Reply with quote

Bob, Yes, they are the standard 9V battery as you pictured. The vario has two, but they are switched so that only one is used at a time. Not much worse, at least in a hang glider, than being 40 miles out on a cross country flight and having your vario go down for a depleted battery.

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Bob, I have an old (30+ years) Hall variometer that I want to put in my trike. It's powered by 9V batteries so it seems an easy enough project to use a converter to power it off the dynamo on the HKS engine. 2 amps should be more than enough output. There are quite a few vendors on eBay that offer them for $2 or so. Do you have any favorite vendors for this kind of thing?

Rick Girard

   What kind of 9v batteries? These things?

[img]cid:7.1.0.9.0.20140202104522.04eb35d8(at)aeroelectric.com.0[/img]

  More than one? How many and do you KNOW
  they are in parallel and not series for
  +/- supply to the electronics?



  Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:23 am    Post subject: 12V to 9V converter Reply with quote

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Bob, Yes, they are the standard 9V battery as you pictured. The vario has two, but they are switched so that only one is used at a time. Not much worse than being 40 miles out on a cross country flight and having your vario go down for a depleted battery.

Okay. Devices that operate from this style of battery
don't take much current. Suggest you cobble this circuit
up on a piece of perf-board . . .



For 9v out, make R1 a FIXED 1500 ohm resistor. You won't
even need to heat sink the regulator. Both resistors can
be 1/4 watt or larger. Capacitors rated for 15v or more.
Radio Shack probably has all the parts you need . . .or I
can drop you a care-package . . .



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:38 am    Post subject: 12V to 9V converter Reply with quote

Bob, Thanks. For the purposes of learning a thing or two, I'll stop at RS this afternoon and pick up the parts. Looks like we're going to be house bound for a couple of days, if the weather guessers have it right, so a little project like this will be a welcome relief.

Rick
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On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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At 07:07 AM 2/3/2014, you wrote:
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Bob, Yes, they are the standard 9V battery as you pictured. The vario has two, but they are switched so that only one is used at a time. Not much worse than being 40 miles out on a cross country flight and having your vario go down for a depleted battery.

  Okay. Devices that operate from this style of battery
  don't take much current. Suggest you cobble this circuit
  up on a piece of perf-board . . .

 

  For 9v out, make R1 a FIXED 1500 ohm resistor. You won't
  even need to heat sink the regulator. Both resistors can
  be 1/4 watt or larger. Capacitors rated for 15v or more.
  Radio Shack probably has all the parts you need . . .or I
  can drop you a care-package . . .



  Bob . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:46 am    Post subject: 12V to 9V converter Reply with quote

Hi Bob

You could also use an LM7809... It's the same as the LM317, but already set to 9V, and doesn't require the external resistor divider. Although I have used it fairly reliably without the input and output smoothing capacitors, I would still recommend putting them in to assure stability.


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On 3 February 2014 15:22, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
[quote] At 07:07 AM 2/3/2014, you wrote:
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Bob, Yes, they are the standard 9V battery as you pictured. The vario has two, but they are switched so that only one is used at a time. Not much worse than being 40 miles out on a cross country flight and having your vario go down for a depleted battery.

  Okay. Devices that operate from this style of battery
  don't take much current. Suggest you cobble this circuit
  up on a piece of perf-board . . .

 

  For 9v out, make R1 a FIXED 1500 ohm resistor. You won't
  even need to heat sink the regulator. Both resistors can
  be 1/4 watt or larger. Capacitors rated for 15v or more.
  Radio Shack probably has all the parts you need . . .or I
  can drop you a care-package . . .



  Bob . . .
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