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bigginsking
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 Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: Oil Coolers... |
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Hey Marty, good to see you're doing well.
Larry, I'll have to dig around for pictures of the install. It wasn't too different than the stock, on the baffle install. I did beef up the baffles in that corner at the same time as going to the smaller cooler. No cracking since I made this change.
The gist of the install was to use 4 pieces of 1x2 inch profile angle, each about an inch long. I think the thickness was 0.125.
use those on each corner of the cooler to grab the coolers mounting holes. shorter side of the angle on the engine baffles, longer side on the cooler.
In an effort to isolate the cooler from vibration I over sized the holes and put in rubber bushings so that the cooler didn't touch anything but the bolts and rubber bushings and then I sealed the perimeter with RTV. The RTV is probably what is actually holding the cooler in place.
Below my sentence got cut off, I meant to say I didn't do the firewall mount because I didn't like the idea of the hoses "working" as the engine vibrated.
Bill
[quote]
Time: 10:57:22 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I have one with ~ 4 hours on it. Will sell for an hours worth of fuel plus
shipping. Had unrelated cooling issues on first few flights=2C but ever
yone pointed to the non- standard configuration (on firewall) so I changed
to SW clone on baffling and still hard other problems to resolve.... Now l
ife is cool at 175 oil temp and < 330 CHT.
Contact off line at [url=tel:703-732-3264]703-732-3264[/url]
Marty
RV-7=2C 150 hrs=2C KSUT
From: bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)
Subject: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I just dug back through my emails to find the skinny on the Setrab cooler.
I'm pretty sure it is this one:
http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/100-series-std-10-row-oil-cooler-3-ta
ll-m22-ports.html
It comes with straight on AN fittings but I couldn't get them to work
in the space I had so I used these:http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/an
-10-x-m22-hose-fitting-90.html
These fitting are mega expensive but swivel which takes alot of the
stress off the attach points. I went this route for a few reasons:
I had the stock cooler completely covered with AL tape and stillcouldn't ge
t over 200 F temps.(Too much cooling)
My baffles cracked from the weight of the stock cooler.(too much weight)I k
new of a rv-6 built by 3 engineers(one is a DER) and they've flown
400 hrs trouble free with this cooler.I didn't do the firewall mount becaus
e i didn't want the hoses
Even still when its cold I can't get over 160 F.
Bill
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 7:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flyer
Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 11:02:37 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
Also had this configuration....I'll send you photos when home=2C next week.
In short=2C mounted 2 parallel pieces of angle aluminum on firewall=2C a
nd mounted Setrab to that. Then built a fiberglass 'vulcano' to funnel the
air. Had a butterfly valve at the attachment to the baffling....
Marty
RV-7=2C KSUT 150 hrs
( P.s. Hi Bill..... Still owe you a ride....)
Subject: Re: Re: Oil Cooler's...
From: larry(at)bowenaero.com (larry(at)bowenaero.com)
Bill -
How did you mount the setrab? Any pictures?--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 10:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote
:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flyer
Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Time: 07:57:29 PM PST US
From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Oil Cooler's...
I originally flew my O-320 RV-6 in Southern California heat during Septembe
r 1997 with an oil cooler mounted on the firewall with 3" SCAT tubing runni
ng to it.
I constantly had high oil temperature. Relocating the oil cooler to the en
gine mount behind cylinder #4 with a full size opening duct to it just an i
nch behind the cylinder lowered oil temp 30 degrees F.
In a high heat environment with high power settings=2C I would not use a fi
rewall mounted oil cooler and 3" SCAT to it. There is not enough air flow
going through the oil cooler with the setup that I originally had.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C810+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
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Larry Bowen
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Location: NC, USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject: Oil Coolers... |
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Thanks for the info. I'm just curious, really. I bought s Stewart Warner 8406R this past December. I'm still working on the mounting of it behind #4. I think it will be fine. My only complaint so far was the cost. I could have bought 5 of the Setrab coolers! Next time....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hey Marty, good to see you're doing well.
Larry, I'll have to dig around for pictures of the install. It wasn't too different than the stock, on the baffle install. I did beef up the baffles in that corner at the same time as going to the smaller cooler. No cracking since I made this change.
The gist of the install was to use 4 pieces of 1x2 inch profile angle, each about an inch long. I think the thickness was 0.125.
use those on each corner of the cooler to grab the coolers mounting holes. shorter side of the angle on the engine baffles, longer side on the cooler.
In an effort to isolate the cooler from vibration I over sized the holes and put in rubber bushings so that the cooler didn't touch anything but the bolts and rubber bushings and then I sealed the perimeter with RTV. The RTV is probably what is actually holding the cooler in place.
Below my sentence got cut off, I meant to say I didn't do the firewall mount because I didn't like the idea of the hoses "working" as the engine vibrated.
Bill
| Quote: |
Time: 10:57:22 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I have one with ~ 4 hours on it. Will sell for an hours worth of fuel plus
shipping. Had unrelated cooling issues on first few flights=2C but ever
yone pointed to the non- standard configuration (on firewall) so I changed
to SW clone on baffling and still hard other problems to resolve.... Now l
ife is cool at 175 oil temp and < 330 CHT.
Contact off line at [url=tel:703-732-3264]703-732-3264[/url]
Marty
RV-7=2C 150 hrs=2C KSUT
From: bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)
Subject: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I just dug back through my emails to find the skinny on the Setrab cooler.
I'm pretty sure it is this one:
http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/100-series-std-10-row-oil-cooler-3-ta
ll-m22-ports.html
It comes with straight on AN fittings but I couldn't get them to work
in the space I had so I used these:http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/an
-10-x-m22-hose-fitting-90.html
These fitting are mega expensive but swivel which takes alot of the
stress off the attach points. I went this route for a few reasons:
I had the stock cooler completely covered with AL tape and stillcouldn't ge
t over 200 F temps.(Too much cooling)
My baffles cracked from the weight of the stock cooler.(too much weight)I k
new of a rv-6 built by 3 engineers(one is a DER) and they've flown
400 hrs trouble free with this cooler.I didn't do the firewall mount becaus
e i didn't want the hoses
Even still when its cold I can't get over 160 F.
Bill
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 7:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flyer
Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 11:02:37 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
Also had this configuration....I'll send you photos when home=2C next week.
In short=2C mounted 2 parallel pieces of angle aluminum on firewall=2C a
nd mounted Setrab to that. Then built a fiberglass 'vulcano' to funnel the
air. Had a butterfly valve at the attachment to the baffling....
Marty
RV-7=2C KSUT 150 hrs
( P.s. Hi Bill..... Still owe you a ride....)
Subject: Re: Re: Oil Cooler's...
From: larry(at)bowenaero.com (larry(at)bowenaero.com)
Bill -
How did you mount the setrab? Any pictures?--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 10:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote
:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flyer
Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 07:57:29 PM PST US
From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Oil Cooler's...
I originally flew my O-320 RV-6 in Southern California heat during Septembe
r 1997 with an oil cooler mounted on the firewall with 3" SCAT tubing runni
ng to it.
I constantly had high oil temperature. Relocating the oil cooler to the en
gine mount behind cylinder #4 with a full size opening duct to it just an i
nch behind the cylinder lowered oil temp 30 degrees F.
In a high heat environment with high power settings=2C I would not use a fi
rewall mounted oil cooler and 3" SCAT to it. There is not enough air flow
going through the oil cooler with the setup that I originally had.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C810+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
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Gary.A.Sobek
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:55 am Post subject: Oil Coolers... |
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About 10-years ago, one of my friends had his Setrab oil cooler rupture during phase one test flying. Most of the oil was pumped overboard. When he landed, there was no oil on the dip stick. He changed it out for one of Van's oil coolers.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,800+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:42:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Oil Coolers...
From: larry(at)bowenaero.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Thanks for the info. I'm just curious, really. I bought s Stewart Warner 8406R this past December. I'm still working on the mounting of it behind #4. I think it will be fine. My only complaint so far was the cost. I could have bought 5 of the Setrab coolers! Next time....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hey Marty, good to see you're doing well.
Larry, I'll have to dig around for pictures of the install. It wasn't too different than the stock, on the baffle install. I did beef up the baffles in that corner at the same time as going to the smaller cooler. No cracking since I made this change.
The gist of the install was to use 4 pieces of 1x2 inch profile angle, each about an inch long. I think the thickness was 0.125.
use those on each corner of the cooler to grab the coolers mounting holes. shorter side of the angle on the engine baffles, longer side on the cooler.
In an effort to isolate the cooler from vibration I over sized the holes and put in rubber bushings so that the cooler didn't touch anything but the bolts and rubber bushings and then I sealed the perimeter with RTV. The RTV is probably what is actually holding the cooler in place.
Below my sentence got cut off, I meant to say I didn't do the firewall mount because I didn't like the idea of the hoses "working" as the engine vibrated.
Bill
| Quote: |
Time: 10:57:22 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I have one with ~ 4 hours on it. Will sell for an hours worth of fuel plus
shipping. Had unrelated cooling issues on first few flights=2C but ever
yone pointed to the non- standard configuration (on firewall) so I changed
to SW clone on baffling and still hard other problems to resolve.... Now l
ife is cool at 175 oil temp and < 330 CHT.
Contact off line at 703-732-3264
Marty
RV-7=2C 150 hrs=2C KSUT
From: bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)
Subject: Re: Oil Cooler's...
I just dug back through my emails to find the skinny on the Setrab cooler.
I'm pretty sure it is this one:
http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/100-series-std-10-row-oil-cooler-3-ta
ll-m22-ports.html
It comes with straight on AN fittings but I couldn't get them to work
in the space I had so I used these:http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/an
-10-x-m22-hose-fitting-90.html
These fitting are mega expensive but swivel which takes alot of the
stress off the attach points. I went this route for a few reasons:
I had the stock cooler completely covered with AL tape and stillcouldn't ge
t over 200 F temps.(Too much cooling)
My baffles cracked from the weight of the stock cooler.(too much weight)I k
new of a rv-6 built by 3 engineers(one is a DER) and they've flown
400 hrs trouble free with this cooler.I didn't do the firewall mount becaus
e i didn't want the hoses
Even still when its cold I can't get over 160 F.
Bill
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 7:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
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Time: 11:02:37 AM PST US
From: Marty Helller <marty_away(at)hotmail.com (marty_away(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Re: Oil Cooler's...
Also had this configuration....I'll send you photos when home=2C next week.
In short=2C mounted 2 parallel pieces of angle aluminum on firewall=2C a
nd mounted Setrab to that. Then built a fiberglass 'vulcano' to funnel the
air. Had a butterfly valve at the attachment to the baffling....
Marty
RV-7=2C KSUT 150 hrs
( P.s. Hi Bill..... Still owe you a ride....)
Subject: Re: Re: Oil Cooler's...
From: larry(at)bowenaero.com (larry(at)bowenaero.com)
Bill -
How did you mount the setrab? Any pictures?--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 10:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge(at)gmail.com (bjudge(at)gmail.com)> wrote
:
I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C temp
s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
e size of the standard Vans cooler.
They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
heat exchanger.
You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittings
at 90 and 45 degrees available.
Bill
N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Oil Cooler's...
Greetings RV'ers=2C
On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-
390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the b
affle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to
aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look
a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flyer
Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
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Time: 07:57:29 PM PST US
From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Oil Cooler's...
I originally flew my O-320 RV-6 in Southern California heat during Septembe
r 1997 with an oil cooler mounted on the firewall with 3" SCAT tubing runni
ng to it.
I constantly had high oil temperature. Relocating the oil cooler to the en
gine mount behind cylinder #4 with a full size opening duct to it just an i
nch behind the cylinder lowered oil temp 30 degrees F.
In a high heat environment with high power settings=2C I would not use a fi
rewall mounted oil cooler and 3" SCAT to it. There is not enough air flow
going through the oil cooler with the setup that I originally had.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C810+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
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