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bob88

Joined: 24 Feb 2013
Posts: 99

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed.

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:12 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

It has been more than 2 years since Van's came out with the service 

bulletin. The first 5 yrs or so they did nothing while a dozen or more 

doors came off. IMHO, Van's service bulletin is almost as bad as the 

problem. Sean Strasburg engineered a very elegant third latch, in the 

same area, that operates with the door handle and is invissible from the 

outside.



On 4/19/2014 12:44 PM, bob88 wrote:

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 How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed.





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422113#422113

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.



Bob



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On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:



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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:46 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

Has anyone installed one of Sean’s systems after painting and putting in the interior?  I need to do something like this but really don’t want undo more than necessary.

Thanks,

Marcus

On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.

Bob

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On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting.   I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF.  You may want to search the archives.



Bob



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		   On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Has anyone installed one of Seanâ€™s systems after painting and putting in the interior?  I need to do something like this but really donâ€™t want undo more than necessary.

 

 Thanks,

 Marcus

 

 On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.

 

 Bob

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

Thanks, I found some good comments on a new install but still looking for the retrofit.  Based on price more than anything, I’m tempted to go with the 90 degree retrofit and new guide pins.  Any thoughts from folks on the 180 vs 90 degree setups?



Marcus



On Apr 19, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:






If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting.   I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF.  You may want to search the archives.



Bob



Sent from my iPad



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		   On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Has anyone installed one of Sean’s systems after painting and putting in the interior?  I need to do something like this but really don’t want undo more than necessary.

 

 Thanks,

 Marcus

 

 On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.

 

 Bob

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

sean(at)braunandco.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:47 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

Marcus,



I can send the instructions to your email for the 180 retro and another 

email with the 90. They are large files so let me know if you want them. 

Around 6.5 mb each.

Also, feel free to call me if you want to chat about your installation. 

801-580-3737.



Sean

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

I'm glad i installed it on my RV-10.

-  It is very convenient for temporarily securing door in windy conditions (loading, preflight ). 

- It practically guarantees the main latch pins engage properly by first assuring door leading & trailing edges are properly aligned w/ door frame.



Not sure how much it would help  if main latch or pins actually failed in flight - have not seen any reports/data on this.



Tim Lewis

RV-10 N31TD 500 hrs

RV-6A N47TD 1100 hrs

A&P



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		   On Apr 19, 2014, at 3:44 PM, "bob88" <marty.crooks(at)comcast.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 How do most builders feel about the necessity of installing the cabin door safety latch? How long ago did Vans come out with that, as a lot of the photos I see do not show that it has been installed.

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422113#422113

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:05 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

http://tinyurl.com/ph4ucvb

Is some of Scott's pictures. At the time, his and Sean's plane were in 

same hangar (may still be, don't know).

Sean is exceedingly helpful to get you through any head scratching episodes.

Kelly

On 4/19/2014 4:32 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

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 If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting.   I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF.  You may want to search the archives.

 Bob

 Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Has anyone installed one of Seanâ€™s systems after painting and putting in the interior?  I need to do something like this but really donâ€™t want undo more than necessary.

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> Marcus

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> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

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> I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.

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> On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

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KCHD

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

Excellent, thanks!

Marcus

On Apr 19, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ph4ucvb

Is some of Scott's pictures. At the time, his and Sean's plane were in same hangar (may still be, don't know).

Sean is exceedingly helpful to get you through any head scratching episodes.

Kelly

On 4/19/2014 4:32 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

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 If I remember correctly, Scott Schmidt installed the latch well after painting.   I seem to recall that he documented the process either here or on VAF.  You may want to search the archives.

 Bob

 Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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philperry9

Joined: 23 Nov 2011
Posts: 381

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: Cabin door safety latch

3 votes for Sean's solution.  It's great. 



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On Apr 19, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:






I couldn't have said it better.  Sean's latch works as advertised.



Bob



Sent from my iPad



On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

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