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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
 Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly 
 more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  
 Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the 
 totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
 
 The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans 
 location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what 
 else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it 
 amazingly accurate now.
 
 My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even 
 the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of 
 this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
 
 With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank 
 and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If 
 there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not 
 my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry 
 even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
 
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  OK, I've got to ask...
  When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
  John
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:51 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very close to empty. 
 
 Jesse Saint
 I-TEC, Inc.
 jesse(at)itecusa.org
 www.itecusa.org
 www.mavericklsa.com
 C: 352-427-0285
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  On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
  Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
  
  The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
  
  My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
  
  With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
  
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:12 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly! 
 
 Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
 Deems
 
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
  [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
   
  The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very close to empty.
  
  Jesse Saint
  I-TEC, Inc.
  jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
  www.itecusa.org
  www.mavericklsa.com
  C: [url=tel:352-427-0285]352-427-0285[/url]
  O: [url=tel:352-465-4545]352-465-4545[/url]
  F: [url=tel:815-377-3694]815-377-3694[/url]
  
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  > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
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  > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
  > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
   >
  > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
   >
  > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
   >
  > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
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  >> OK, I've got to ask...
  >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
  >> John
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:37 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have enjoyed the journey. 
 
 Jesse SaintI-TEC, Inc.
 jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
 www.itecusa.org
 www.mavericklsa.com
 C: 352-427-0285
 O: 352-465-4545
 F: 815-377-3694
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 On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)> wrote:
 [quote]I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly! 
 
 Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
 Deems
 
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
   
  The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very close to empty.
  
  Jesse Saint
  I-TEC, Inc.
  jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
  www.itecusa.org
  www.mavericklsa.com
  C: [url=tel:352-427-0285]352-427-0285[/url]
  O: [url=tel:352-465-4545]352-465-4545[/url]
  F: [url=tel:815-377-3694]815-377-3694[/url]
  
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  > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
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  > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
  > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
   >
  > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
   >
  > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
   >
  > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
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  >> OK, I've got to ask...
  >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
  >> John
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:09 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				It really has been a great learning experience for everyone,
 me too.  Some of the people I've met became like family.
 The aircraft itself has been truly amazing and now I don't
 know what I'd do without it.  Coming from spam cans, there
 really is no way I'd want to go back.  I think many people
 these days don't know what they're missing by NOT trying to
 do things like build your own airplane.  Do they really
 think it's beyond them?  Look at how many of us found out
 that it really isn't.
 
 It's also been really great that people like Deems and many
 others have tried new things and shared their experiences
 along the way.  It's helped everyone to improve their
 own plane.
 
 It's really easy to see that those who've actually
 completed their RV-10 can meet the spirit of the intent
 of the Experimental Amateur Built category...recreation
 and education....because it's that's what it's been
 for me in a big way.
 Tim
 On 6/27/2014 12:11 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
  benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
  have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
  of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
  day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
  regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
  hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
  twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
  the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you
  all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
  DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
 
  Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
 
  Deems
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:36 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				Not sure on his how it would be, but on mine I adjusted the floats to the lower end. So when full they only read 23 or 24 gallons but are pretty accurate at the bottom.
 
  
 God Bless America
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 Bruce
  
      On Friday, June 27, 2014 11:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
   
   
 
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 It really has been a great learning experience for everyone,
 me too.  Some of the people I've met became like family.
 The aircraft itself has been truly amazing and now I don't
 know what I'd do without it.  Coming from spam cans, there
 really is no way I'd want to go back.  I think many people
 these days don't know what they're missing by NOT trying to
 do things like build your own airplane.  Do they really
 think it's beyond them?  Look at how many of us found out
 that it really isn't.
 
 It's also been really great that people like Deems and many
 others have tried new things and shared their experiences
 along the way.  It's helped everyone to improve their
 own plane.
 
 It's really easy to see that those who've  actually
 completed their RV-10 can meet the spirit of the intent
 of the Experimental Amateur Built category...recreation
 and education....because it's that's what it's been
 for me in a big way.
 Tim
 On 6/27/2014 12:11 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have
  benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we
  have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all
  of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early
  day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions
  regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st
  hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them
  twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had
  the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I  Thank you
  all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from
  DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Extra fuel | 
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				I want to say that you guys are my source of inspiration. Every time I look at the project and get discouraged by the amount of work still to go, I  read some of your logs and stories and am inspired. I also find Jesse dad’s stories very encouraging having worked in overseas mission.
 Bill Greenley
 Starting to put the top on the fuselage, fiberglass here I come
  
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 I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have enjoyed the journey. 
 
 Jesse Saint
 I-TEC, Inc.
 
 jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
 
 www.itecusa.org
 
 www.mavericklsa.com
 
 C: 352-427-0285
 
 O: 352-465-4545
 
 F: 815-377-3694
 
  
 
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 On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)> wrote:
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 I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly!
  
 
 Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
 
  
 
 Deems
 
  
  
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
 --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
 
 The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very close to empty.
 
 Jesse Saint
 I-TEC, Inc.
 jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
 www.itecusa.org
 www.mavericklsa.com
 C: [url=tel:352-427-0285]352-427-0285[/url]
 O: [url=tel:352-465-4545]352-465-4545[/url]
 F: [url=tel:815-377-3694]815-377-3694[/url]
 
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  On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
  Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
 
  The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
 
  My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
 
  With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
 
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				When landing in a strong crosswind I try to draw fuel from the raised wing in the side slip. If you run one tank dry there's a fifty-fifty chance you won't be able to do that. Personally, I don't transition to a slip until well into the flare, so it's not a big deal, but something to keep in mind. Especially if a go around is needed.
 
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				Us guys from the big island to the Deep South also thank you all for sharing your experiences and knowledge. I could not have built this aircraft with such confidence without you all.  Thank you ever so much.
 I'm hoping to catch up with as many of you as possible next year at Oshkosh.
 
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 On 28 Jun 2014, at 3:06, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
 [quote]I agree with Deems. I got started on the list with no pilot or mechanic license. Now I have both. I've learned a lot from this group and have enjoyed the journey. 
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I've been reading the threads on fuel and performance lately, and have benefited from the discussions. One thing that struck me, is that we have all come a LONG way, I feel like I "grew-up" airplane-wise with all of you as we went through this RV10 journey together. From the early day's where Tim led the 'revolt' to Matronics to the current discussions regarding maintenance and operations. I've come to know many of you 1st hand and count you as friends. I've owned 5 planes, a couple of them twins with complex systems, logged lots of hours. But I have never had the understanding on any of them that I have with the -10. I Thank you all for contributing to that. We just finished our 6th annual trip from DVT to the east coast. I love this airplane more each time we fly! 
 
 Give yourselves a hand of applause, You've come a long way!
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 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
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  The floats hit the top of the tank around 24-26 gallons because if the dihedral. If installed and calibrated correctly, they will read accurately down to very close to empty.
  
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  > On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
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  > On 6/27/2014 9:40 AM, johngoodman wrote:
  > Strangely enough, up until recently my fuel gauges always show slightly more fuel than I actually have and the totalizer slightly less.  Splitting the difference gave me the right number.  Running with the totalizer number gave me a safety factor.
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  > The totalizer issue was due to placing the GRT unit in the Van's plans location.  It ran high when the boost pumps was on and who knows what else.  Relocating it to between the controller and spider makes it amazingly accurate now.
   >
  > My fuel gauges never show completely full tanks but they will show even the slightest amount of remaining fuel sloshing about.  I assume some of this is a calibration issue with the GRT EIS but it works fine as is.
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  > With 10 gallons left my approach is to have most of those in one tank and to run off the other (and hard VFR with airports underneath).  If there's even a hiccup, tanks get switched and we are landing NOW.  Not my cup of tea and I haven't had a hiccup yet. I haven't run a tank dry even for testing but did spend a year measuring things very carefully.
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  >> OK, I've got to ask...
  >> When you have 10.2 gallons left in the tanks, are the Van's floats reading zero, but the totalizer shows that much left?
  >> John
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