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 Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:25 am Post subject: log book errro |
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When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote "completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the FAA, but it exists.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:44 am Post subject: log book errro |
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On 8/22/2014 11:22 AM, Thomas Sargent wrote:
| Quote: | When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote "completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
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If there was ever a problem ..... the standard verbiage would be better. And remember it's not an 'annual', but a 'conditional inspection'
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If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
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Use the standard verbiage next time.
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I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the FAA, but it exists.
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Actually, this is what my FSDO recommended as long as it's kept with the logbooks .... especially since my 'conditional inspection' occurs over the year (mostly). Anything not covered during the year is covered in Jan ... when my entry in the logbook occurs. It's amazing what you do throughout the year making improvements/mods and doing normal maintenance.
Linn
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:07 am Post subject: log book errro |
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Perhaps I should clarify that the separate document I keep is everything I did during the inspection - what I inspected and what the results were. It's not a record of oil changes or repairs. Those are in the log book.
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Gary.A.Sobek
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: log book errro |
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Conditional Inspection? Where in FAA Orders / Operating Limitations does it call out Conditional other than for a sale of an aircraft?
FAA Order 8130.2G Change 1 calls out a Condition Inspection. If you look at your Operating Limitations, it will also.
| Quote: | No person must operate this aircraft unless within the preceding 12 calendar months it has had a condition inspection performed in accordance with the scope and detail of 14 CFR part 43, appendix D, or other FAA-approved programs, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation. As part of the condition inspection, cockpit instruments must be appropriately marked and needed placards installed in accordance with 14 CFR § 91.9. In addition, system-essential controls must be in good condition, securely mounted, clearly marked, and provide for ease of operation. This inspection will be recorded in the aircraft logbook and maintenance records.
Condition inspections must be recorded in the aircraft logbook and maintenance records showing the following, or a similarly worded, statement: “I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on [insert date] in accordance with the scope and detail of 14 CFR part 43, appendix D, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation.” The entry will include the aircraft’s total time-in-service (cycles if appropriate), and the name, signature, certificate number, and type of certificate held by the person performing the inspection. |
On 08-22-2014, 11:40 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
[quote] On 8/22/2014 11:22 AM, Thomas Sargent wrote:
| Quote: | When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote "completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
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If there was ever a problem ..... the standard verbiage would be better. And remember it's not an 'annual', but a 'conditional inspection'
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If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
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Use the standard verbiage next time.
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I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the FAA, but it exists.
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Actually, this is what my FSDO recommended as long as it's kept with the logbooks .... especially since my 'conditional inspection' occurs over the year (mostly). Anything not covered during the year is covered in Jan ... when my entry in the logbook occurs. It's amazing what you do throughout the year making improvements/mods and doing normal maintenance.
Linn
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Kellym
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:29 am Post subject: log book errro |
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The easiest fix....do a computer generated labeln sticker with the
correct language quoted directly from your operating limitations.
Place the sticker right over the incorrect entry and sign it.
Experimentals do not get an annual inspection, just a condition
inspection that occurs annually.
KellyM
A&P/IA
On 8/22/2014 8:22 AM, Thomas Sargent wrote:
| Quote: | When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log
entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to
discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry
about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote
"completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's
a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my
signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the
FAA, but it exists.
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Tom Sargent
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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:43 am Post subject: log book errro |
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Sorry ... typing faster than the brain works. Thanks for the heads up.
Linn
On 8/22/2014 12:10 PM, Gary A. Sobek wrote:
[quote] Conditional Inspection? Where in FAA Orders / Operating Limitations does it call out Conditional other than for a sale of an aircraft?
FAA Order 8130.2G Change 1 calls out a Condition Inspection. If you look at your Operating Limitations, it will also.
| Quote: | No person must operate this aircraft unless within the preceding 12 calendar months it has had a condition inspection performed in accordance with the scope and detail of 14 CFR part 43, appendix D, or other FAA-approved programs, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation. As part of the condition inspection, cockpit instruments must be appropriately marked and needed placards installed in accordance with 14 CFR § 91.9. In addition, system-essential controls must be in good condition, securely mounted, clearly marked, and provide for ease of operation. This inspection will be recorded in the aircraft logbook and maintenance records.
Condition inspections must be recorded in the aircraft logbook and maintenance records showing the following, or a similarly worded, statement: “I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on [insert date] in accordance with the scope and detail of 14 CFR part 43, appendix D, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation.” The entry will include the aircraft’s total time-in-service (cycles if appropriate), and the name, signature, certificate number, and type of certificate held by the person performing the inspection. |
On 08-22-2014, 11:40 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
| Quote: | On 8/22/2014 11:22 AM, Thomas Sargent wrote:
| Quote: | When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote "completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
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If there was ever a problem ..... the standard verbiage would be better. And remember it's not an 'annual', but a 'conditional inspection'
| Quote: |
If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
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Use the standard verbiage next time.
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I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the FAA, but it exists.
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Actually, this is what my FSDO recommended as long as it's kept with the logbooks .... especially since my 'conditional inspection' occurs over the year (mostly). Anything not covered during the year is covered in Jan ... when my entry in the logbook occurs. It's amazing what you do throughout the year making improvements/mods and doing normal maintenance.
Linn
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mrobert569(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: log book errro |
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Tom,
Don't worry about it. Anybody, including the FAA, will know what you meant. And as soon as you write/wrote a new condition inspection entry, the old one was superseded.
Mike Robertson
Retired Das Fed
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:22:28 -0700
Subject: log book errro
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When doing my annual this year I checked back on the previous log entries I made for my other annual inspections. I was amazed to discover that a couple years ago I did not make the standard entry about "i gave inspected... it complies with..." etc. I just wrote "completed annual inspection".
Is this really a mistake? Do you need the standard verbiage?
If it is a mistake, how do I make it right?
I also keep a separate, unofficial document for each inspection. It's a long check list of everything I did along with with notes, my signature and certificate number. Probably has no standing with the FAA, but it exists.
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Tom Sargent
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