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		tscott165(at)cableone.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				In the past year I have had occasion to have my glareshield out  
 several times for avionics and electrical work. Every time we put it  
 back in we have a problem getting the screws into the tinnermans that  
 tend to move out of line with the holes. Is there any problem with  
 replacing the tinnermans with rivnuts and using machine screws to  
 attach the glareshield?
 
 Scott Boyce, AA5B, N28339
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		FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				In a message dated 6/23/06 11:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 tscott165(at)cableone.net writes:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		    Is there any problem with replacing the tinnermans with rivnuts and using 
 machine screws to attach the glareshield?
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 Hi Scott:
 
 Tinnerman's with floating 'C' clips.   I feel it would be 10 times harder if 
 you converter the floating 'C' clips to fixed Rivnuts.
 
 My suggestion would be to ADD a tool to your toolbox ... A scribe / awl.  You 
 can use it to align the holes and provide a path for the screws.  ALSO!  Do 
 not tighten down the screws until you get ALL the screws in place.  It also 
 maybe probable that the holes in the glare shield are not in the best of 
 locations.  You may have to enlarge the holes to help in alignment, that is one of the 
 advantages of using Tinnerman's they can self-align if the holes allow.  One 
 last suggestion, Start from the CENTER and work out in both directions.  While 
 you are at it ... Make sure the center 'L' bracket from the firewall to the 
 panel is secure, they have a tendency to brake at the firewall connection.
 
 Barry
 "Chop'd Liver"
 
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		flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				Barry's suggestions work well.  Another one is to attach the eyebrow 
 separately with maybe 3 flush screws (drill new holes and use Tinnermans, 
 etc.) and install the glareshield over the top of them using the original 
 holes and screws down through both glarehield and eyebrow.  This helps 
 prevent the Tinnermans from moving out of position and makes it a lot easier 
 to reinstall the glareshield.
 
 Cliff A&P/IA
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				In a message dated 6/23/06 8:36:15 PM, tscott165(at)cableone.net writes:
  
  
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  replacing the tinnermans with rivnuts and using machine screws to 
  attach the glareshield?
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  The tinnerrman clips I use are for the sheet metal, PK screws.   They are a lot easier to install.   It isn't structural so you don't need a locking nut. 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				In a message dated 6/24/06 4:17:47 AM, FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com writes:
  
  
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  My suggestion would be to ADD a tool to your toolbox ... A scribe / awl.  You
  can use it to align the holes and provide a path for the screws.
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  Good suggestions.   I use a hex head wrench..   They are tough and short enough to get into the corner.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Glareshield Installation | 
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				In a message dated 6/24/06 6:43:10 AM, flyv35b(at)ashcreekwireless.com writes:
  
  
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Barry's suggestions work well.  Another one is to attach the eyebrow
  separately with maybe 3 flush screws (drill new holes and use Tinnermans,
  etc.) and install the glareshield over the top of them using the original
  holes and screws down through both glarehield and eyebrow. 
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  I never have any trouble aligning the holes with the eyebrow attached with the screws from the glareshield.   Plus, it makes it easier to pull the eyebrow and get it out of the way when I don't want to remove the glareshield completely to look inside.   Also, if you have a plastic eyebrow (shame on you) it adds to the total time to R&R a light bulb.
 
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