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barrynorman(at)comcast.ne
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:07 am    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/
This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do anything from all that I have heard.
Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple engine inside. Nothing too complicated.
The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case.
Waiting on the parts to arrive.
Barry

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
Good Luck Barry – Hope it all goes well for you.

K’d

From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of barrynorman(at)comcast.net
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I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/



This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do anything from all that I have heard.



Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple engine inside. Nothing too complicated.



The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case.



Waiting on the parts to arrive.



Barry

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
Barry,

This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is
obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect.
If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT
LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low
cost.

It's incredible how much that company despises its customers.
It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and
having the monopoly of their market.

Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a
competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this
undeserved domination.

Guy

On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman(at)comcast.net wrote:
Quote:
I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and
confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the
pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/

This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from
Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith
discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going
to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do
anything from all that I have heard.

Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings
where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use
a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple
engine inside. Nothing too complicated.

The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a
bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then
stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve
to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long
studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case.

Waiting on the parts to arrive.

Barry
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barrynorman(at)comcast.ne
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
Guy, I agree whole heartily. They should be a lot more responsive but we'll see what they do. For now I'm learning a lot about their product and glad it never stopped during flight. I feel very blessed to be on the ground fixing it and not in the ground.
Thanks for all the support.
Barry
From: "Guy Sirois" <altair11(at)videotron.ca>
To: "pulsar-list" <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fretted Crankcase
--> Pulsar-List message posted by: Guy Sirois <altair11(at)videotron.ca>
Barry,
This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is
obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect.
If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT
LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low
cost.
It's incredible how much that company despises its customers.
It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and
having the monopoly of their market.
Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a
competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this
undeserved domination.
Guy

On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman(at)comcast.net wrote:
Quote:
I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and
confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the
pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/

This only after 468 hours.  I ordered the new parts from
Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith
discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going
to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do
anything from all that I have heard.

Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings
where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use
a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple
engine inside. Nothing too complicated.

The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a
bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then
stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve
to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long
studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case.

Waiting on the parts to arrive.
-Matt Dralle, List ==========

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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:35 pm    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
Remember they have to be very careful about admitting liability, otherwise it could be used against them in bigger law suits later.

K’d

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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:28 AM
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Guy, I agree whole heartily. They should be a lot more responsive but we'll see what they do. For now I'm learning a lot about their product and glad it never stopped during flight. I feel very blessed to be on the ground fixing it and not in the ground.



Thanks for all the support.



Barry




From: "Guy Sirois" <altair11(at)videotron.ca>
To: "pulsar-list" <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fretted Crankcase


--> Pulsar-List message posted by: Guy Sirois <altair11(at)videotron.ca>


Barry,


This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is
obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect.
If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT
LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low
cost.


It's incredible how much that company despises its customers.
It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and
having the monopoly of their market.


Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a
competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this
undeserved domination.


Guy





On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman(at)comcast.net wrote:
> I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and
> confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the
> pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/
>
> This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from
> Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith
> discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going
> to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do
> anything from all that I have heard.
>
> Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings
> where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use
> a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple
> engine inside. Nothing too complicated.
>
> The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a
> bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then
> stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve
> to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long
> studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case.
>
> Waiting on the parts to arrive.
> -Matt Dralle, List ==========








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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:02 am    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
How can I tell if my crankcase is fretted without a major teardown?
Mine is a 1995 model with almost 500 hours on it.

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barrynorman(at)comcast.ne
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:19 pm    Post subject: Fretted Crankcase Reply with quote
The problem years were 2005-2006.  The engine is hard to turn over by hand after flight. That's one indication. Mine also started leaking from crankcase bolts.
Barry


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How can I tell if my crankcase is fretted without a major teardown?
Mine is a 1995 model with almost 500 hours on it.

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