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McFly
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: Air system Flush |
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Thunderbird Cylinder in Phoenix tests them for $25.
http://www.thunderbirdcylinder.com
Todd McCutchanT-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd(at)fastaircraft.com (todd(at)fastaircraft.com)
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On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com (f16viperdoc(at)me.com)> wrote:
[quote]Apple what a trip! DOT.
DOC
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On Aug 25, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com (f16viperdoc(at)me.com)> wrote:
[quote]By a place in LA. Have to dig back through my notes. I have the contact info in some of my junk. Working on a place in Ga. That will do it also since they do not have to carry a DZoZt cert.
Doc
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On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Gary Gabbard <ggg6(at)att.net (ggg6(at)att.net)> wrote:
[quote]I have had my air bottles hydro checked by Jill and Carl at M-14P. They have a Way of doing it. Gary Gbbard. LAS. N22YK.
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On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:40, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Thanks Dennis,
Currently looking for someone locally. Also perusing the archives for the size of the bottle fitting, unless someone already knows that off hand 
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:32 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
[quote] Call Doug. He can give you the name of the company that cleans and tests the bottles for the CJ. You can also call Jill at M14P and she can have the bottles tested. I'm certain neither requires DOT approval.
Dennis
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On 8/25/2014 12:24 PM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
[quote] I have been enlightened through back channels of DOT approved hydro testers on the bottles.
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil (mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil)> wrote:
[quote] --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil (mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil)>
You might also consider a bore scope to look for signs of internal corrosion on the bottles themselves.
I am not sure what you mean by saying the bottles are not "DOT approved". Nothing in the aircraft is approved by anyone in this country, hence the Experimental status of the aircraft, and the whole reason for "Conditional Inspections", which basically say to the FAA that the aircraft is in a safe "condition" to fly for another year.
It is true that various owners have replaced the original bottles with other designs, usually due to a lack of OEM parts. Regarding getting the stock bottles tested, my view boils down to the simple question of "should you get them tested or not get them tested"? The answer (to me) is an obvious "yes", in that the bottle is removed, the interior inspected for corrosion, and the bottle is tested to verify that it can hold recommended pressures safely. The goal is not to get a DOT certification of the bottle itself, but to simply verify that it is safe using standard high pressure bottle procedures.
I understand the IA's concern as his mind goes to standard aircraft certification immediately and not Experimental. The actual issue might be that in certain cases hydro testing stations will refuse to do the testing due to the lack of a DOT stamp on the bottle.
In the end it is up to the individual owner of the aircraft to make such decisions working with the A&P mechanic in due course of his aircraft's maintenance.
Mark
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Pete Fowler
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Location: California
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Air system Flush |
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Looking at all the problems you've posted with your new Nanchang should show the rest of the prospective Nanchang buyers why you don't buy a $65k Nanchang. Every dollar you "save" will cost you $5 in time and parts.
Learn it from others or learn it yourself, there's no such thing as a bargain Nanchang that isn't a headache.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject: Air system Flush |
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Gotta back Pete up on this one. Picked up my Yak after it was totaled by the insurance company. 2.75 years later it's finally flying 98% reliably. Although for me, it was the right choice - not being able to afford a healthier initial investment. But I was also willing to see it through and turn all the wrenches myself. There's something to be said for gaining all that intimate knowledge regarding your aircraft, too. It's been a long road and I'm not in "park" yet. But I feel like I KNOW this airframe and systems - not as well as many but more than some. And isn't that how life goes? If you want it bad enough - you can find ways to bring it full circle...
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Looking at all the problems you've posted with your new Nanchang should show the rest of the prospective Nanchang buyers why you don't buy a $65k Nanchang. Every dollar you "save" will cost you $5 in time and parts.
Learn it from others or learn it yourself, there's no such thing as a bargain Nanchang that isn't a headache.
Read this topic online here:
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Ernie
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My $60k Nanchang has cost me about $600 in parts and has been completey trouble free after a little work. Runs like a champ, consumes very litle oil, and doesnt leak very much. After tending to a neglected air system, it is tight as a drum. I just spent a great weekend at the WayCross formation Clinic after a 6 year hiatus, and flew the crap out of my $60k Nanchang without a hiccup. I couldnt be happier with my purchase.
I don't know how long you've owned your CJ but I've owned them long enough to know not to overpay, because down the road it's going to be worth less than I paid, as you are starting to learn the hard way.
Rather than disparage my purchase, maybe you should swallow your pride and lower your price and maybe you'll get yours sold.
Ernie
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1(at)cox.net (pfdesign1(at)cox.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Pete Fowler" <pfdesign1(at)cox.net (pfdesign1(at)cox.net)>
Looking at all the problems you've posted with your new Nanchang should show the rest of the prospective Nanchang buyers why you don't buy a $65k Nanchang. Every dollar you "save" will cost you $5 in time and parts.
Learn it from others or learn it yourself, there's no such thing as a bargain Nanchang that isn't a headache.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=432163#432163
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Dawg
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I got my Yak for less than $40. No problems. In fact got both my Yaks for less than $40.Bought L-29s for $28 with never a problem. Bought L-39s for under $65, never a problem.
Bought a C-172 for under $10 no problems.
I have also paid a ton for what was supposed to be a great airplane. Now a museum piece and had to be towed to the museum!
I spent a ton on a new car that was a lemon.
So Pete, there are just good deals out there without having to mortgage the farm. And they fly just fine.
We are happy with this flying as a hobby. When you make your hobby a business, things get to be no fun.
Working on your airplane is fun as well.
If you can’t afford the $5 in parts, by a bicycle.
Price does not dictate nor establish quality.
You boys play nice.
bill
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]My $60k Nanchang has cost me about $600 in parts and has been completey trouble free after a little work. Runs like a champ, consumes very litle oil, and doesnt leak very much. After tending to a neglected air system, it is tight as a drum. I just spent a great weekend at the WayCross formation Clinic after a 6 year hiatus, and flew the crap out of my $60k Nanchang without a hiccup. I couldnt be happier with my purchase.
I don't know how long you've owned your CJ but I've owned them long enough to know not to overpay, because down the road it's going to be worth less than I paid, as you are starting to learn the hard way.
Rather than disparage my purchase, maybe you should swallow your pride and lower your price and maybe you'll get yours sold.
Ernie
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1(at)cox.net (pfdesign1(at)cox.net)> wrote:
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Looking at all the problems you've posted with your new Nanchang should show the rest of the prospective Nanchang buyers why you don't buy a $65k Nanchang. Every dollar you "save" will cost you $5 in time and parts.
Learn it from others or learn it yourself, there's no such thing as a bargain Nanchang that isn't a headache.
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