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Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

Hey Michel,
 
Thanks for posting the information on those tires.
 
I’m thinking about a pair of Carlisle “Smooth Operators”.  Model 599358 (18x9.50-Cool are 17.8” diameter and 8.7” width.  These should fit my wheel pants. 
 
My current tires are 16x6.50-8 trailer tires.  The tread grips on pavement so I pump them up hard to get some “drift”.  That makes the ride a bit harsh on my grass strip.  I think that a tire with more sidewall at lower pressure (24 vs. 40) might ride better and the slick round profile might not dig in so hard during a swerve on asphalt.
 
Does anyone have any first hand experience with large slick tires on pavement?
 
When I changed the tires I took the mounted tires to a shop that services ATV’s.  They dismounted them and I cleaned up and polished the rims.  I mounted a pair of metal right angle valve stems to make it easier use an air chuck.  I’m using them tubeless.
 
My next door neighbor showed me how to mount the new tires.  Hard but doable.
 
http://www.carlisletire.com/products/smooth_operators/smooth/index.html
 
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Carlisle/carlisle_smooth_and_slick.htm
 
Wish me luck!
 
Mark Napier
 
 
 
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel(at)online.no> On Jun 29, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:>  I find it extremely difficult to break the bead with any tire I have > ever put on these 8" original Kitfox rims. This is why I don't want to do it myself, Lowell. I take the wheels to the workshop that does it professionally. They use a machine that turns around the tyre making a "poof!" sound. Cool stuff!  
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

I spent a few bucks at Harbor Freight years ago and
picked up one of their inexpensive ATV tire changing
tools. Works good. I never have any problems
breaking beads or getting tires back on the rims.

Just MHO, I run Carlisle tires but with tubes. Their
turf tires aren't designed to take the skids that
occur when a plane touches down on a hard surface.
Going 0 to 60mph is a serious strain on those tires
that are typically designed for ZTR and like mowers
and equipment. Thorns and sharp stuff on grass
fields are also an issue.

Regards,

Ted

--- Original Message ---
tyres

Quote:
Hey Michel,

=20

Thanks for posting the information on those tires.

=20

I'm thinking about a pair of Carlisle "Smooth
Operators". Model 599358

Quote:
(18x9.50-Cool are 17.8" diameter and 8.7" width.
These should fit my

Quote:
wheel pants. =20

=20

My current tires are 16x6.50-8 trailer tires. The
tread grips on

Quote:
pavement so I pump them up hard to get
some "drift". That makes the

Quote:
ride a bit harsh on my grass strip. I think that a
tire with more

Quote:
sidewall at lower pressure (24 vs. 40) might ride
better and the slick

Quote:
round profile might not dig in so hard during a
swerve on asphalt.

Quote:

=20

Does anyone have any first hand experience with
large slick tires on

Quote:
pavement?

=20

When I changed the tires I took the mounted tires to
a shop that

Quote:
services ATV's. They dismounted them and I cleaned
up and polished the

Quote:
rims. I mounted a pair of metal right angle valve
stems to make it

Quote:
easier use an air chuck. I'm using them tubeless.

=20

My next door neighbor showed me how to mount the new
tires. Hard but

Quote:
doable.

=20

http://www.carlisletire.com/products/smooth_operators
/smooth/index.html

Quote:

=20

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%
20TIRES/Carlisle/carlisle_smooth_and_s

Quote:
lick.htm

=20

Wish me luck!

=20

Mark Napier



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

I spent a few bucks at Harbor Freight years ago and
picked up one of their inexpensive ATV tire changing
tools. Works good. I never have any problems
breaking beads or getting tires back on the rims.

Just MHO, I run Carlisle tires but with tubes. Their
turf tires aren't designed to take the skids that
occur when a plane touches down on a hard surface.
Going 0 to 60mph is a serious strain on those tires
that are typically designed for ZTR and like mowers
and equipment. Thorns and sharp stuff on grass
fields are also an issue.

Regards,

Ted

--- Original Message ---
tyres

Quote:
Hey Michel,

=20

Thanks for posting the information on those tires.

=20

I'm thinking about a pair of Carlisle "Smooth
Operators". Model 599358

Quote:
(18x9.50-Cool are 17.8" diameter and 8.7" width.
These should fit my

Quote:
wheel pants. =20

=20

My current tires are 16x6.50-8 trailer tires. The
tread grips on

Quote:
pavement so I pump them up hard to get
some "drift". That makes the

Quote:
ride a bit harsh on my grass strip. I think that a
tire with more

Quote:
sidewall at lower pressure (24 vs. 40) might ride
better and the slick

Quote:
round profile might not dig in so hard during a
swerve on asphalt.

Quote:

=20

Does anyone have any first hand experience with
large slick tires on

Quote:
pavement?

=20

When I changed the tires I took the mounted tires to
a shop that

Quote:
services ATV's. They dismounted them and I cleaned
up and polished the

Quote:
rims. I mounted a pair of metal right angle valve
stems to make it

Quote:
easier use an air chuck. I'm using them tubeless.

=20

My next door neighbor showed me how to mount the new
tires. Hard but

Quote:
doable.

=20

http://www.carlisletire.com/products/smooth_operators
/smooth/index.html

Quote:

=20

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%
20TIRES/Carlisle/carlisle_smooth_and_s

Quote:
lick.htm

=20

Wish me luck!

=20

Mark Napier



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

Hey Ted,

You made me remember seeing a tool that might work.
Maybe it was the H. Freight tool I remember?

Does it consist of 2 legs and a lever? One leg
attaches to the wheel center and the other leg has a
curved foot on the bottom to press against the tire
bead. The lever connects the 2 and you just pull down
on the lever. It pulls up on the wheel center and
down on the bead. Work it around until the bead is
all free.

That is something people could build at home.

You still have to work both tire beads over of the
wheel, unless the wheel splits. Of course if the
wheel splits, you can get the tire off easier....

At the tire store, they use an inverted spoon on the
end of a lever. You raise a corner of the bead above
the rim with the spoon, curved side to the bead. Pull
the lever agaist the tire tool center leg around in a
circle to work all the bead over the rim.

Handymans special? Or is the H. Freight tool easier
and cheap enough?

Kurt S.

--- flier <FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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I spent a few bucks at Harbor Freight years ago and
picked up one of their inexpensive ATV tire changing

tools. Works good. I never have any problems
breaking beads or getting tires back on the rims.>
Regards,

Ted

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

Hey Kurt,

It's this one...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34552

I've use it to do the 'Fox, ATVs, and trailer tires.

Regards,

Ted

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

No Ted, that is not the one. It looks even better!
Seems worth the price fer sher.

Kurt S.

--- flier <flier(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Hey Kurt,

It's this one...


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34552

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I've use it to do the 'Fox, ATVs, and trailer tires.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Carlisle Tires WAS: Re: Taiwan tyres Reply with quote

It works pretty good Kurt. There's always a little technique in changing a
tire but it'll break beads and make removing tires from the rims pretty
straight forward. I just mounted mine to a 3x3 piece of heavy plywood as a
base.

Regards,

Ted

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