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 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:15 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics |
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics |
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Greg,I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a manual.............Blitz???
Doug
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics |
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The speeds are listed in the Chinese flight manual. Somewhere.
Gary. N22YK
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 18:23, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Greg,I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a manual.............Blitz???
Doug
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics |
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The aerobatic manual for CJs is available and downloadable in the RPA's online store. Go to www.flyredstar.org and click on the store.
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
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Mill Valley, CA 94941
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics |
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This is from an old post by Barry:
| Quote: | The question I have is could someone give me normal entry speeds for
> loops , rolls etc, only interested in pretty mild maneuvers just
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> positive G entry level stuff.
Walt,
Here's what I use:
Rolls - anything over 100 knots, but around 125 KIAS (around normal
cruise) is the nicest balance of roll rate and stick force required.
Loops & Cubans - 160 KIAS will give you a nice round loop with 4 G
pulls at the bottom. If you're not worried about roundness, 3 G's
will do 'er with margin over the top.
Immelman - 160-165 KIAS
Split S - less than 100 KIAS
Wing overs - can easily be accomplished from 140 KIAS....keep that
ball centered! 
If you're positive G the whole time, no need to worry about oil
level....and if you go negative, it won't matter how much you have in
there, you're gonna have a mess without a closed system.
Standard disclaimer: None of the above is an endorsement for
performing aerobatics in a CJ. Obtain quality instruction and learn
to fly any maneuvers competently with a qualified pilot before
venturing out on your own. Know and rehearse stall/spin recovery
techniques prior to any aerobatic flight. Give your self sufficient
altitude to recover and or bailout of an unrecoverable situation.
Wear a parachute and have parameters for it's use determined before
getting in the cockpit. Kiss your wife and feed your dog...and most
importantly have that cheeseburger you've been putting off before you
go flying. -
Have fun!
Barry
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Thanks all. I'm off to the RPA store. Safe Flying......
Greg On Jul 9, 2015 12:08 AM, "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote]The aerobatic manual for CJs is available and downloadable in the RPA's online store. Go to www.flyredstar.org and click on the store.
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
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Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
[url=tel:415-307-2405]415-307-2405[/url]
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