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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:38 am Post subject: removing seat

I need to remove my front seat back for a upholstery repair

Can the seat back be removed or must I remove the whole seat?

What is easiest?

Alan



ps does anyone have a schematic of the seat?



Alan

N668G

330 hrs

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:08 am Post subject: Re: removing seat

I imagine it can be done either way, but I'd remove the whole seat. With a small modification (shorten the rail, or bevel the front slide on the seat) you can remove the seat without removing the flap cover.

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RV-10 QB

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:21 am Post subject: removing seat

Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.



Carl



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aerosport1

Joined: 07 Nov 2007
Posts: 231

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:52 am Post subject: removing seat

You can remove the upper back pretty easy. Roll your seat cover up about 6-8

inches and then there are 4   1/4-28 screws with

Lock nuts remove these. Very easy. See photo They might be a little harder

to get to while in the aircraft

Geoff Combs



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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:33 am Post subject: removing seat

I beveled the fwd upper part of the nylon insert back about 1/2" all the 

way across (real thin at the fwd end) so the rear of the seat can be 

lifted to clear the flap cover.  No need to shorten the rail.  I tapped 

the mounting holes in the seat lock and used bolts to hold it in place.  

Lift the seat cushion up and a ratchet makes quick work of the bolts.  

You have to either remove the stop or the lock .....

Linn



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 I imagine it can be done either way, but I'd remove the whole seat. With a small modification (shorten the rail, or bevel the front slide on the seat) you can remove the seat without removing the flap cover.



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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:28 am Post subject: removing seat

Does the seat remove forward or rear?

Alan



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		   On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

 

 

 

 I imagine it can be done either way, but I'd remove the whole seat. With a small modification (shorten the rail, or bevel the front slide on the seat) you can remove the seat without removing the flap cover.

 

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 Bob Turner

 RV-10 QB

 

 

 

 

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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:50 am Post subject: removing seat

Rear.



You need to remove the seat stop spring pin for the seat to slide out.



You need to unscrew and move the flap operator cover below the rear seat to

get enough room for the seat to slide out of the rail.



Carl



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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: removing seat

From a previous answer .....

On 8/8/2015 10:47 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

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 Rear.



 You need to remove the seat stop spring pin for the seat to slide out.

I tapped the mounting holes in the seat lock bracket and used bolts to 
	


hold it in place.  Lift the seat cushion up and a ratchet makes quick 

work of the bolts.



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		   You need to unscrew and move the flap operator cover below the rear seat to

 get enough room for the seat to slide out of the rail.

I beveled the fwd upper part of the nylon insert back about 1/2" all the 
	


way across (real thin at the fwd end) so the rear of the seat rail can 

be lifted to clear the flap cover.

Linn

[quote]

 Carl



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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:48 am Post subject: removing seat

I took the seat out today

Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

Alan

Sent from my iPhone



[quote] On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

 

 Carl

 

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EdKranz

Joined: 29 Dec 2010
Posts: 132
Location: Hastings, MN

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:03 am Post subject: removing seat

Would one of these fit?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)>

 I took the seat out today

 Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

 Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)> wrote:

 >

 > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)>

 >

 > Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

 >

 > Carl

 >

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schmoboy

Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 130

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: removing seat

I ran into that issue also.  I believe the carevout for the forward bolt 

in the seat rail stop is too small to get a standard wall socket in 

there.  If I remember correctly, I purchased a set of thin wall sockets 

and that did the trick.



-Sean #40303 (bird at the paint shop.  pilot has lack of flying withdrawls)



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		   Alan Mekler MD <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>

 August 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM

 



 I took the seat out today

 Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made 

 it tedious .

 Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:14 am Post subject: removing seat

I tried one of those the head was too big to fit onto the bolt

Alan

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On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com (ed.kranz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Would one of these fit?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)>

 I took the seat out today

 Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

 Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)> wrote:

 >

 > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)>

 >

 > Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

 >

 > Carl

 >

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cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: removing seat

I’ve used the ratchet wrenches a lot.  I can’t remember if ti will work there, but they really make life easy when applicable.  The quality brands are worth the extra $$.

Marcus

[quote] On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:31 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

 I took the seat out today

 Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

 Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

> 

> Carl

> 

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: removing seat

And, don't buy the ones that don't reverse. You can sometimes get stuck not being able to get the Wrench off, if you don't have the reversing ones.

Tim

[quote] On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 I’ve used the ratchet wrenches a lot.  I can’t remember if ti will work there, but they really make life easy when applicable.  The quality brands are worth the extra $$.

 Marcus

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:31 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> I took the seat out today

> Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

> Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

> Alan

> 

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

>> 

>> Carl

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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:40 pm Post subject: removing seat

A thin wall 1/4" drive socket works great.  I just ground a standard socket down to fit and keep it separated for just that purpose to remove the seat.

Sent from my iPad

[quote] On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

 I took the seat out today

 Could not get a socket wrench in so had to use an open end which made it tedious .

 Any one come across a small socket set that would fit?

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Don't even try to remove the seat back.  Take the whole seat out.

> 

> Carl

> 

> --

amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:43 pm Post subject: removing seat

sounds like the easiest way.

alan

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Aug 7, 2015, at 12:38 PM, amekler <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 I need to remove my front seat back for a upholstery repair

 Can the seat back be removed or must I remove the whole seat?

 What is easiest?

 Alan

 

 ps does anyone have a schematic of the seat?

 

 Alan

 N668G

 330 hrs

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445671#445671

Greg McFarlane

Joined: 12 Apr 2012
Posts: 58
Location: Albany Western Australia

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:00 am Post subject: Re: removing seat

RV10 Front Seat removal has been a topic that's generated a lot of interest Alan. FlyingNuts solution is the way I went with minor adjustments after others had worked it out. That is, cut 3/8inch off the top forward nylon runners, extend the two holes in the seat rail stops through the seat floor F1067A then fit two nut plates per seat under the seat floor for the seat stop bolts (need to be a little longer than originals) Now only two easy accessed bolts to remove the seat stop allows the seat to be removed rearward without the removal of T handles, Cushions or flap cover. JFYI there is a thread on VAF RV10 forum started in 2010 to 2015 that has been viewed about 5000 times and to date has generated 42 replies with pretty much everything known to man about RV10 front seat removal fleshed out. If interested search VAF RV10 forum "looking for seat rail mod" my post is number 36.    Cheers from Western Australia

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