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gengrumpy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: The Oregon RV10 lawsuit Reply with quote

As suggested by others, I reached out to Scott this am to offer our support to their legal team.
I’ll let you all know how we can help whenever Scott or their legal team decides what they need.

grumpy
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From: srisan(at)vansaircraft.com (srisan(at)vansaircraft.com)
Subject: Re: The Oregon RV10 lawsuit
Date: October 26, 2015 at 12:18:34 PM CDT
To: Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)>
John, I've passed this same question on to our primary lawyer. He hasn'tresponded yet but I'll certainly let you know if there is something we'd likeyou or others to do. Again, we REALLY appreciate the support! It is a truemorale booster.Best, Scott/Van's
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Scott,There is now a lot of chatter on the RV10 builder´s net about wanting to help you guys.Is there a way we builders can help support your legal team?We are ready and willing to help - just tell us how we can help!John



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:00 am    Post subject: The Oregon RV10 lawsuit Reply with quote

Does Vans make their customers who purchase a kit or kit components, sign a liability release or a hold harmless agreement? Not that a good attorney can't get around it.
Justin



On Oct 26, 2015, at 11:29, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote]As suggested by others, I reached out to Scott this am to offer our support to their legal team.
I’ll let you all know how we can help whenever Scott or their legal team decides what they need.

grumpy
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Begin forwarded message:
From: srisan(at)vansaircraft.com (srisan(at)vansaircraft.com)
Subject: Re: The Oregon RV10 lawsuit
Date: October 26, 2015 at 12:18:34 PM CDT
To: Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)>
John,  I've passed this same question on to our primary lawyer. He hasn'tresponded yet but I'll certainly let you know if there is something we'd likeyou or others to do. Again, we REALLY appreciate the support! It is a truemorale booster.Best, Scott/Van's
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Scott,There is now a lot of chatter on the RV10 builder´s net about wanting to help you guys.Is there a way we builders can help support your legal team?We are ready and willing to help - just tell us how we can help!John



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: The Oregon RV10 lawsuit Reply with quote

One issue with 'hold harmless' agreements is that in most states one person may not sign away the rights of others. e.g., while the builder, now deceased, may have agreed not to sue, neither he nor Vans can apply that agreement to others, such as his step daughter or her child.

The real reasons such suits exist is that most states have unrestricted 'deep pockets' laws. If a jury should find the builder 99% responsible, and Vans 1% responsible (maybe because 'Do not use RTV was not printed in red, or 5 point type, or whatever), Vans would be on the hook for virtually the entire award, not withstanding the 1% judgement (assuming the builder's estate had no where near enough assets to pay its share). So the plantiff knows that it just has to convince most of a jury that Vans was just a tiny bit responsible, and they get a huge payday from a sympathetic jury.


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