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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Better Gas Strut for Doors Reply with quote

Well Carl, I'm going to really give your points some serious consideration.

I've been guilty as recently as last week of leaving the doors open on a public ramp just so things weren't so hot after a pit stop.  That's just plain stupid in retrospect.

Before re-fitting my door latches, I often left a door closed but unlatched sitting on the ramp.  That practice will stop now.

But I must have really poor cockpit ventilation or something.  I've done Albuquerque and Phoenix in season (not summer) and well, I just can't imagine 5 minutes taxiing around with it all sealed up.  Typically it would be with one or both doors open about 6" with straps looped around our arms.  Now with fresh struts I found that just keeping them wide open worked well on a calm day.  They weren't flopping around like they did with the weaker struts and the ventilation was just wonderful... but prop/jet blast could be a risk as would strong winds or a thermal.

I'll always remember my first landing in Scottsdale.  A windshield reflective cover was not part of my equipment yet.  After a couple of hours in the sun a number of interior items fell off, delaminated or otherwise self destructed in the solar heat blast.  Just part of the extended test period....

Bill "thinking a snapped off door would ruin my year" Watson

On 11/4/2015 2:31 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

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I again urge caution.  While you may have successfully tested taxi with the doors open, the “other airplane” prop blast might be waiting to bite.  Same for leaving the doors open or closed but not locked on the ramp when the plane is unattended.
 
Just did a run out west this summer to Albuquerque and Phoenix.  While warm, once the engine was started there was adequate cockpit ventilation with the doors shut and locked to make things tolerable.
 
Carl (been there – done that and the hinges snapped like dry twigs)
 



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:41 pm    Post subject: Better Gas Strut for Doors Reply with quote

Bill,
You just need to get going on the RV-10 XL upgrade. Say a 1 ft plug at the empennage attach to the cabin for bigger baggage compartment. The extra leverage would allow for upgrading the engine to 300 hp versions of the engine. Then get someone to figure what improvements were needed for the tail feathers to allow upping the Vne, so that a turbo could be mounted, allowing keeping 75% up to the flight levels with 200kt cruise without burning a barrel of 100LL/hour. Oh and reverse the main gear, and mount a tail wheel, while removing the nose gear, to reduce drag. It would be just a bit faster than your old Maule.

On 11/4/2015 7:15 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

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Hey Lew!

I keep forgetting you are in in Greenville... we fly in to KGMU 1 or 2 times a year to see friends.  Next time I'll try to look you up.

Thinking back to our last trips though, I'm at a loss as to where I would put such a cooler given either the full seats or/or full cargo load we seem to always be hauling around.  I'm really glad I never started that RV7 project.

Bill "wondering what you are building now" Watson

On 11/4/2015 11:46 AM, lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net) wrote:

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Hey Bill,
 
I think I have one of these coolers/fans/pump, etc. in the shop still.  If you’re interested, I’ll go look.  I’m in Greenville, SC ... not that far for a –10, come see us!
 
Later, – Lew
 








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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:02 pm    Post subject: Better Gas Strut for Doors Reply with quote

Lew,

I’m heading down to SPA tomorrow to take Don Rivera’s class.   I’m not sure how much free time I’ll have after class.

bob

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Bill,
You just need to get going on the RV-10 XL upgrade. Say a 1 ft plug at the empennage attach to the cabin for bigger baggage compartment. The extra leverage would allow for upgrading the engine to 300 hp versions of the engine. Then get someone to figure what improvements were needed for the tail feathers to allow upping the Vne, so that a turbo could be mounted, allowing keeping 75% up to the flight levels with 200kt cruise without burning a barrel of 100LL/hour. Oh and reverse the main gear, and mount a tail wheel, while removing the nose gear, to reduce drag. It would be just a bit faster than your old Maule.
On 11/4/2015 7:15 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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Hey Lew!

I keep forgetting you are in in Greenville... we fly in to KGMU 1 or 2 times a year to see friends. Next time I'll try to look you up.

Thinking back to our last trips though, I'm at a loss as to where I would put such a cooler given either the full seats or/or full cargo load we seem to always be hauling around. I'm really glad I never started that RV7 project.

Bill "wondering what you are building now" Watson

On 11/4/2015 11:46 AM, lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net) wrote:
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Hey Bill,



I think I have one of these coolers/fans/pump, etc. in the shop still. If you’re interested, I’ll go look. I’m in Greenville, SC .. not that far for a –10, come see us!



Later, – Lew








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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Better Gas Strut for Doors Reply with quote

Hey Bill & Bob,

A bit off the topic now. I am retiring from my 40 year career as a marriage and family therapist at the end of December ... so that I’ll have more time to work my ass off on planes, and now boats.
Edwin McCain (singer, who has a passion for restoring boats – did a 6 segment series “Flipping Ships” for Animal Planet) has temporarily high jacked me to do fiberglass restoration for his projects. He was also an RV pilot and had heard of my glass work. I may have to go back to work to rest up!

I am still looking for a local pilot who wants to hire me to help build a – 10. I have collected tail feathers/empennage, quick build wings, cowl, and various other pieces. I have no interest in building to sell – especially with recent liability issues. And I hate that now there’s this nagging concern of “net casting” law suits that may ruin my passion for building these beautiful birds.

From everything I hear, you will really enjoy Don’s class and come away with much valuable information and experience. I will not be available tomorrow, but should be in the shop from Fri. through the weekend. We’ve been dealing with almost daily rain here since the middle of Sept. with no end in the near future.

I am kept busy doing repair work (a LOT of wheel pants) on the planes I’ve helped build. This weekend, I’m redoing the air box on a – 8 where the filter is eating into the glass. The owner has eliminated the emergency air door, so I’m thinking I’ll make a metal plate for the floor of the air box with no fasteners in the inner circumference of the filter. He’s had some rivets work out and get sucked through the engine from the patch he created when he eliminated the door ... not good.

Later, – Lew

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Lew,

I’m heading down to SPA tomorrow to take Don Rivera’s class. I’m not sure how much free time I’ll have after class.

bob

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Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:33 PM
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Bill,
You just need to get going on the RV-10 XL upgrade. Say a 1 ft plug at the empennage attach to the cabin for bigger baggage compartment. The extra leverage would allow for upgrading the engine to 300 hp versions of the engine. Then get someone to figure what improvements were needed for the tail feathers to allow upping the Vne, so that a turbo could be mounted, allowing keeping 75% up to the flight levels with 200kt cruise without burning a barrel of 100LL/hour. Oh and reverse the main gear, and mount a tail wheel, while removing the nose gear, to reduce drag. It would be just a bit faster than your old Maule.
On 11/4/2015 7:15 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
Quote:

Hey Lew!

I keep forgetting you are in in Greenville... we fly in to KGMU 1 or 2 times a year to see friends. Next time I'll try to look you up.

Thinking back to our last trips though, I'm at a loss as to where I would put such a cooler given either the full seats or/or full cargo load we seem to always be hauling around. I'm really glad I never started that RV7 project.

Bill "wondering what you are building now" Watson

On 11/4/2015 11:46 AM, lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net) wrote:
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Hey Bill,



I think I have one of these coolers/fans/pump, etc. in the shop still. If you’re interested, I’ll go look. I’m in Greenville, SC ... not that far for a –10, come see us!



Later, – Lew








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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Better Gas Strut for Doors Reply with quote

Ha!  A RV10 XL, I like it.  But you know, the current design flies so darn well I'd settle for an enormously bigger cargo door like the Maule. 

...But that would probably require adding some welded tube steel structure, the only thing the '10 is missing.

On 11/4/2015 9:33 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

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Bill,
You just need to get going on the RV-10 XL upgrade. Say a 1 ft plug at the empennage attach to the cabin for bigger baggage compartment. The extra leverage would allow for upgrading the engine to 300 hp versions of the engine. Then get someone to figure what improvements were needed for the tail feathers to allow upping the Vne, so that a turbo could be mounted, allowing keeping 75% up to the flight levels with 200kt cruise without burning a barrel of 100LL/hour. Oh and reverse the main gear, and mount a tail wheel, while removing the nose gear, to reduce drag. It would be just a bit faster than your old Maule.

On 11/4/2015 7:15 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

Quote:
Hey Lew!

I keep forgetting you are in in Greenville... we fly in to KGMU 1 or 2 times a year to see friends.  Next time I'll try to look you up.

Thinking back to our last trips though, I'm at a loss as to where I would put such a cooler given either the full seats or/or full cargo load we seem to always be hauling around.  I'm really glad I never started that RV7 project.


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