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Larry,
I used hydraulic mountain bike brakes on my Twinstar MKII. I used 2 brake
handles on the control stick and I can activate either side or both at the
same time with just my fingers. The cost was about $100. total. They hold
really well, I can power it up until it noses over. I did have to make all
the mounting hardware and it has to be accurate so it doesn't rub. I have
never used toe brakes and thought I would have a problem because I operate
out of a rough field and could picture my feet bouncing on and off the
brakes at just the wrong time.
Lee
Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:11 PM - Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
2. 03:33 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Stuart Harner)
3. 04:11 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
4. 05:32 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Herb)
5. 08:00 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (west1m)
6. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
7. 08:34 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Stuart Harner)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 12:11:14 PM PST US
Subject: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
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I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I have
looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want
two
hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on the
feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
remorse.
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Larry
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________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 03:33:46 PM PST US
From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: RE: Hydraulic brakes?
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
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________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 04:11:51 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two separate
systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to stick with
that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should really
consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased as
an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not i
ndividual
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| Quote: | brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use them much.
However,
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| Quote: | it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and still taxi at a
reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure h
ow
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| Quote: | you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever on th
e
|
| Quote: | stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install an
d
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| Quote: | looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want t
wo
|
| Quote: | hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on th
e
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| Quote: | feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
remorse.
Larry
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________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 05:32:31 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com>
you can save most of that 550 dollars by using Mtn bike disc
brakes...either hydraulic or mechanical...Gotta be a bit mechanically
inclined...will need to make a couple of spools that attach the disc to
the rim...and a couple of adapter plates that attach the caliper to the
large washer that is welded to the axle... I found my mechanical
versions at the salvage yard...for maybe 5 bucks.... Requires some
design work...but was a good two day project...
Ebay has both styles...Herb
On 02/28/2016 06:11 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual
hand brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for
two separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may
have to stick with that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
really consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
<mailto:stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>> wrote:
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes
though, not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and
was purchased as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you dont need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I dont use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM
up and still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at
all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a
swiveling tail wheel like you have the effect is not as
noticeable. I am not sure how you would rig the dual hand levers
for individual brakes. One lever on the stick and one on the
throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to
install and simple in design.
Stuart
*From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Larry Cottrell
*Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
*To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
*Subject:* Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my
Firestar ll. I have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far.
The only problem is that I want two hand operation. (
individual braking) It appears that will run about $500 bucks
or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending
on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com
<mailto:lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> I only want to do this once,
and I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
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________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 08:00:32 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com>
I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my firefly. I use a dual hand
control by
the throttle. Quite handy, no regrets.
--------
West1m
Hastings, MN
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453278#453278
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 08:06:01 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Do you remember the cost for dual controls?
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m <west1m(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 08:34:43 PM PST US
From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: RE: Hydraulic brakes?
Yeah, that is on my =9Cto do=9D list for this spring before
flying season. I haven=99t settled on exactly how to do it yet.
Also need to cut out all the inspection holes and have a real good
look-see inside. About 15 hours in the air, I figure it is about time
for a new bird. Many other =9Clittle details=9D to attend
too as well. Weather is getting better every day
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two
separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to
stick with that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
really consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
wrote:
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
--
The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.
If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.
--
The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.
If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.
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