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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

Hi Lowell,

I just got back from a 7.5 hour X country - 2 grass strips, 2 paved
runways and about a dozen different lakes and rivers since yesterday AM
.Never over 3500 agl and flew 300 agl to 1500 agl for most of it . Had to
cross about 40 miles of open water but stayed within few miles of shore.
Just because you are on floats does not mean it going be fun in 6 foot
waves.

Regs do read 500 above highest obstacle and 1000 or 2000 feet vertically
from them.

Dave

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

New fangled sexytants.... Where's the spirit of adventure??? Give me a
lodestone, astrolabe and an abacus any day.

Is it true Columbus was lost???

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

Dave sez:

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Regs do read 500 above highest obstacle and 1000 or 2000 feet
vertically from them.

That only applies over congested areas of cities, towns, settlements,
or an open air assembly of people:

Sec. 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate
an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an
emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the
surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or
settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of
1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of
2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above
the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In
those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the
minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the
operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the
surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply
with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters
by the Administrator.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

I am tallking Transport Canada Mike.

as follows
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regserv/Affairs/cars/PART6/602.htm#602_14_2
Minimum Altitudes and Distances

602.14 (1) [Repealed]
(amended 2003/03/01; previous version)

(2) Except where conducting a take-off, approach or landing or where
permitted under section 602.15, no person shall operate an aircraft

(a) over a built-up area or over an open-air assembly of persons unless the
aircraft is operated at an altitude from which, in the event of an emergency
necessitating an immediate landing, it would be possible to land the
aircraft without creating a hazard to persons or property on the surface,
and, in any case, at an altitude that is not lower than

(i) for aeroplanes, 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle located within a
horizontal distance of 2,000 feet from the aeroplane,

(ii) for balloons, 500 feet above the highest obstacle located within a
horizontal distance of 500 feet from the balloon, or

(iii) for an aircraft other than an aeroplane or a balloon, 1,000 feet above
the highest obstacle located within a horizontal distance of 500 feet from
the aircraft; and

(b) in circumstances other than those referred to in paragraph (a), at a
distance less than 500 feet from any person, vessel, vehicle or structure.

Best Regards,

Dave

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

Thanks Michael,

I knew it was in there somewhere. Sometimes I just don't have the energy to
search it out. This was a must read, some time back. so as to avoid
illegalities when flying the Nevada, Oregon, Arizona and Idaho countryside.

Here in No. Cal. there is the story of a guy that took and published some
pictures of the new Carquinez suspension bridge on the internet and the FAA
determined that his pictures couldn't have been taken with legal clearance
and his license was suspended for a time. I don't know if this story is of
the urban legend variety or true, but it gives pause when taking photos and
videos from the air.

Lowell
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

Dave,

Thanks for the clarification. Have to be careful when visiting Canada. I
understand one of our guys has family or friends North East of Porthill, ID
and we are planning on visiting this summer.

Lowell
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Garmin GPS set-up Reply with quote

Dave sez:

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I am tallking Transport Canada Mike.

The Canadian rules are essentially the same as in the U.S., Dave. You quoted:

Quote:
(a) over a built-up area or over an open-air assembly of persons...

(b) in circumstances other than those referred to in paragraph (a),
at a distance less than 500 feet from any person, vessel, vehicle or
structure.

When you are not over a "built-up area" you can fly 2 feet off the
ground as long as that leaves you 500 feet from any person, vessel,
vehicle or structure and you could safely land from there.

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