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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and
changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear and would like to
know if the Avery RV Jack Stand is the way to go or not. I would like to
hear from some who can extol the benefits of this method of changing tires
or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the RV
and what they did instead.

Marty in Brentwood
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I have the Avery RV Jack Stand and have used it exclusively on my RV-7.
I've changed tires 3 or 4 times, rotating the tires halfway through their
wear. All said and done, I've probably jacked the thing up a dozen times or
more using the jack stand. Works great from my perspective. It's stable
and quick. I'm hard-pressed to think of a down-side other than having to
hollow out the axle nut, which isn't a big deal.

Some have said that you can simply put a hose clamp around the base of the
gear leg at the bend, and then jack up against that. That would sure be the
simplest way to go. But in my case the brake tubing loop would interfere
with doing that.

)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (972 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

In a message dated 7/10/2006 7:10:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, emrath(at)comcast.net writes:
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or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the RV
and what they did instead.


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I just use my old hydraulic floor jack sitting on top of a plastic step-stool/tool case.  It has a cupped end that lifts against my wing tie down rings.  I use the McMaster-Carr electro-polished stainless steel lifting eyes (P/N 8891T48) for my tie down rings, so they are hell-for-stout pulling or pushing.  
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I also have the Avery RV Jack stand and think it is great.  I first purchased the little angle iron gizmo with the U-bolt that bolts around the gear leg.  It really is terrible.  First it is not a flat spot to jack up on and slid off my jack once.  Fortunately I still had the wheel on.  Second you would have to remove the gear fairing in order to bolt this around your gear leg.  The Avery tool is a good one for my money.
 
Angle iron with U-bolt purchased from Van's for sale cheap.
Tim
 
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Terry Watson



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I saw another method advertised somewhere recently. It was a bent pipe with a T on one end. The T steadied the pipe on the floor. The bent pipe went over the wheel, and had a loop of cable that would go under the axle. You jacked up the free end of the bent pipe, lifting the wheel with the cable.  It seemed to me that you could do the same thing with a 2x4 and a husky box to support one end of the 2x4. Loop a cable under the axle. Jack the free end of the 2x4.
But I have never tried it so maybe it’s a bad idea.
Terry
RV-8A finishing
Seattle

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I also have the Avery RV Jack stand and think it is great.  I first purchased the little angle iron gizmo with the U-bolt that bolts around the gear leg.  It really is terrible.  First it is not a flat spot to jack up on and slid off my jack once.  Fortunately I still had the wheel on.  Second you would have to remove the gear fairing in order to bolt this around your gear leg.  The Avery tool is a good one for my money.

 

Angle iron with U-bolt purchased from Van's for sale cheap.

Tim

 

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From: Dan Checkoway (dan(at)rvproject.com)

Date: 07/10/06 19:42:02

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I have the Avery RV Jack Stand and have used it exclusively on my RV-7.

I've changed tires 3 or 4 times, rotating the tires halfway through their

wear.  All said and done, I've probably jacked the thing up a dozen times or

more using the jack stand.  Works great from my perspective.  It's stable

and quick.  I'm hard-pressed to think of a down-side other than having to

hollow out the axle nut, which isn't a big deal.

 

Some have said that you can simply put a hose clamp around the base of the

gear leg at the bend, and then jack up against that.  That would sure be the

simplest way to go.  But in my case the brake tubing loop would interfere

with doing that.

 

)_( Dan

RV-7 N714D (972 hours)

http://www.rvproject.com

 

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I used the hose clamp at the bend method and it worked, more or less,
but one time it fell off the jack and bent the brake caliper bracket for
a $90 replacement part. Ouch. The Avery set up does require the cotter
key to be removed before jacking so it's not a handy way to level the
airplane for getting gyros straight in the panel or getting a remote
compass module level. If you're changing/rotating tires or packing wheel
bearings, the cotter's got to come out anyway so that's not a big deal.

Pax,

Ed Holyoke

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

emrath(at)comcast.net wrote:
There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear..........or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the RV and what they did instead. Marty in Brentwood
RV-6A
Marty,

I use the (admittedly pricey) Axle Jack offered by Van's, Spruce and probably others. It is a very easy, almost bulletproof method to quickly jack up a wheel. Little more than 48 hours ago I used it to rotate the tires and tubes to even out the wear pattern and while I was at it, changed the brake pads. Using this tool made jacking the airplane up a very quick and simple proposition. The whole thing breaks down into smaller component pieces and is stowed in a heavy cloth sack to carry along (if desired) on cross country trips. With this jack no modifications are necessary and emergency field repairs can be made without augmenting the tool with an appropriately sized bottle jack.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1750/tirejack407go.jpg
Here is the link to Van's that better describes the included accessories package.
http://tinyurl.com/o9bcy

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 151 hours


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

Marty,
 
I took a 3/8 inch bolt, cut it off, and rounded the end for a safe fit into the top of my hydraulic bottle jack.  This is a little more secure than jacking on the tiedown ring.
 
I set the jack up on a piece of 2x6 lumber on top of 2 cement blocks on the concrete hangar floor.  It would be safer to bolt a plate about 7 inches square to the bottom of the jack and I plan to do this.  Be sure to chock the other main wheel as well as the nose wheel (if you have one).  Dropping the airplane and punching a hole in the wing skin would of course be a disaster.
 
I'm not saying this is the best way.  I just used what I had available.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

The Avery jack works fine on my RV7. I played around with other jacking
methods and they just did not seem safe after trying them. The Avery jack
has been used twice and I like it. Money well spent. Indiana Larry

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I made some weldments that screw into the wing tiedown and standard aircraft
jacks for jacking... I will take some photos today and pass them on...

-Bill


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

Do Not Archive
Rick ...
This looks like the way to go and thanks for sharing.
What is the part that goes under the axle to lift? Is it an open "J" hook
threaded at the top end? If so, what diameter is the threaded part of the
hook?
Many thanks ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
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I use the (admittedly pricey) Axle Jack offered by Van's, Spruce and
probably others. It is a very easy, almost bulletproof method to quickly
jack up a wheel. Little more than 48 hours ago I used it to rotate the
tires and tubes to even out the wear pattern and while I was at it,
changed the brake pads. Using this tool made jacking the airplane up a
very quick and simple proposition. The whole thing breaks down into
smaller component pieces and is stowed in a heavy cloth sack to carry
along (if desired) on cross country trips. With this jack no modifications
are necessary and emergency field repairs can be made without augmenting
the tool with an appropriately sized bottle jack.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1750/tirejack407go.jpg
Here is the link to Van's that better describes the included accessories
package.
http://tinyurl.com/o9bcy

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 151 hours


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I bought a 2 ft piece of 5/8" (I think that's right) steel rod. This
slips inside the axle. I then use my floor jack used for the car, it
will fit under the steel rod, and jack the plane up. Works a lot like
Avery's jack stand, but you really don't need any more than the steel
rod.

John L. Danielson
RV-6 sold

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

Jerry,

You are correct. The working end is an open "J" hook welded to a threaded rod, I'm guessing about 1/2" diameter or so. The rod is first fed through the crossmember, and the crank threaded onto it (separated from the crossmember by a teflon or delrin-like washer). The legs and pads are then attached. It takes less than one minute to assemble/break down the entire jack into its component parts. Here is a link to Spruce that better describes it. It is however, unfortunate their pricing is not very competitive on this particular item.

http://tinyurl.com/m7to7

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 151 hours
[quote="Jerry Grimmonpre'"]Do Not Archive
Rick ...
This looks like the way to go and thanks for sharing.
What is the part that goes under the axle to lift? Is it an open "J" hook
threaded at the top end? If so, what diameter is the threaded part of the
hook?
Many thanks ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I considered jacking near the gear leg, but none of the solutions
there are all that fantastic in all regards.

I submit that perhaps rather than a small jack, something like
this may be a good solution for many people, although it's
definitely not portable.
See here at the bottom of the page for jackstands I built.

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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emrath(at)comcast.net wrote:
> There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear..........or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the RV and what they did instead. Marty in Brentwood
> RV-6A
Marty,

I use the (admittedly pricey) Axle Jack offered by Van's, Spruce and probably others. It is a very easy, almost bulletproof method to quickly jack up a wheel. Little more than 48 hours ago I used it to rotate the tires and tubes to even out the wear pattern and while I was at it, changed the brake pads. Using this tool made jacking the airplane up a very quick and simple proposition. The whole thing breaks down into smaller component pieces and is stowed in a heavy cloth sack to carry along (if desired) on cross country trips. With this jack no modifications are necessary and emergency field repairs can be made without augmenting the tool with an appropriately sized bottle jack.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1750/tirejack407go.jpg
Here is the link to Van's that better describes the included accessories package.
http://tinyurl.com/o9bcy

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 151 hours




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

I have a local RV friend that has developed a simple but effective
jack for RV 6s and 7s. that works inboard of the gear, thus is out of
your way!

If there is an interest I'll get a picture . . . I don't know if he's
selling or simply sharing the plans but it looks like a better
solution to me? (But I'm a RV-8 guy)

Send me an email directly and I'll put you in touch.

Good luck!

Bob in SE Iowa
On 7/10/06, Emrath <emrath(at)comcast.net> wrote:
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There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and
changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear and would like to
know if the Avery RV Jack Stand is the way to go or not. I would like to
hear from some who can extol the benefits of this method of changing tires
or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the RV
and what they did instead.

Marty in Brentwood
RV-6A




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

John,

How do you remove a wheel when it's jacked up like that?

Bob

On 7/11/06, John Danielson <johnd(at)wlcwyo.com> wrote:
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I bought a 2 ft piece of 5/8" (I think that's right) steel rod. This
slips inside the axle. I then use my floor jack used for the car, it
will fit under the steel rod, and jack the plane up. Works a lot like
Avery's jack stand, but you really don't need any more than the steel
rod.

John L. Danielson
RV-6 sold

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

You slide the wheel out onto the rod and put a block under the axle so
the rod and wheel can be moved away from the plane.

Pax,

Ed Holyoke

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Jacking up an RV Reply with quote

Thanks for answering for me Pax.

John Danielson
RV-6 sold
Harmon Rocket

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