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Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:15 am    Post subject: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

In my very best James Cagney voice... "All right you mugs... you asked for it !" Attached are photos of the current state of progress on my HKS engine upgrade on the Firestar 2.

A 3/8" aluminum engine mount plate was made, with the engine mounted on 2 inch risers.

The engine mount plate also has an extended section for the rear oil cooler mount bracket.

The oil cooler mounts lengthwise on the starboard side of the aircraft, with the top surface of the cooler flush with the top surface of the airfoil.

The rear oil cooler bracket is mounted ont he engine mount plate. This requires a front mount that is not rigid, in order for engine movement to NOT twist or bend the cooler.

The oil tank mounts on a 6061-T6 aluminum weldment. This weldment (and the oil tank) mounts on the port side of the upper fuselage keel tube.

The engine ignition coils, ignition controllers, etc. will mount on a 2024-T3 plate forward of the oil tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:44 pm    Post subject: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

By the way, the yellowish color bracket at the rear of the oil cooler was left a little long and un-trimmed, because I suspect there may have to be something else mounted to this bracket later on. So the sharp corner on the top of that bracket will eventually be rounded and smoothed. The color is from the mil-spec primer (probably genuine toxic Navy Zinc Chromate), because I got that angle extrusion from a project that was being built by an ex-US Navy engineer Smile

Bill Berle
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On Mon, 12/19/16, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Subject: RE: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016, 11:14 AM

In my very best James Cagney voice...
"All right you mugs... you asked for it !" Attached are
photos of the current state of progress on my HKS engine
upgrade on the Firestar 2.

A 3/8" aluminum engine mount plate was made, with the engine
mounted on 2 inch risers.

The engine mount plate also has an extended section for the
rear oil cooler mount bracket.

The oil cooler mounts lengthwise on the starboard side of
the aircraft, with the top surface of the cooler flush with
the top surface of the airfoil.

The rear oil cooler bracket is mounted ont he engine mount
plate. This requires a front mount that is not rigid, in
order for engine movement to NOT twist or bend the cooler.

The oil tank mounts on a 6061-T6 aluminum weldment. This
weldment (and the oil tank) mounts on the port side of the
upper fuselage keel tube.

The engine ignition coils, ignition controllers, etc. will
mount on a 2024-T3 plate forward of the oil tank.


Bill Berle
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upgrade for light aircraft
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   - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

Just looking at your mounting of the oil cooler - if it was me, I would be using something more like pure rubber at the front and back - probably something more like this:
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277592_0_5060?checkfit=true

or this -
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277528_458130_17551?checkfit=true
I have used 2 of these for years to hang the muffler on my MKIII - grind off the rivet heads, and throw away all the metal parts, keep the rubber hangar and use it. It is cut from a section of tire sidewall and flexes well without coming apart. Every third year I throw them away and put in new ones just so I don't have to worry about it.

I just have a bad feeling that those nice aluminum brackets you currently have are going to fatigue, crack, and disappoint you. They look nice tho...


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:48 pm    Post subject: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

Thanks Richard, I appreciate your comments. One thing that is not clear in the photos is that there are large diameter rubber grommets in both the cooler-mounted bracket and the airframe-mounted bracket.The pivot bolt shown in the photos goes through both grommets.

So with the rubber in both aluminum pieces the cooler can move easily without deforming or twisting either of the aluminum brackets, plus it can rotate on the pivot bolt.

The rubber padding on the modifieed Adel clamps holding it to the steel cross tube is only to protect the steel tune. The "compliance" or flexibility i the mount comes from the grommets.

Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities

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On Mon, 12/19/16, Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016, 9:21 PM


"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>

Just looking at your mounting of the oil cooler - if it was
me, I would be using something more like pure rubber at the
front and back - probably something more like this:
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277592_0_5060?checkfit=true

or this -
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277528_458130_17551?checkfit=true
I have used 2 of these for years to hang the muffler on my
MKIII - grind off the rivet heads, and throw away all the
metal parts, keep the rubber hangar and use it. It is cut
from a section of tire sidewall and flexes well without
coming apart. Every third year I throw them away and put in
new ones just so I don't have to worry about it.

I just have a bad feeling that those nice aluminum brackets
you currently have are going to fatigue, crack,  and
disappoint you. They look nice tho...

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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:20 pm    Post subject: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

Wow... did I kill the Kolb list again....?

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On Mon, 12/19/16, Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016, 9:21 PM


"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>

Just looking at your mounting of the oil cooler - if it was
me, I would be using something more like pure rubber at the
front and back - probably something more like this:
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277592_0_5060?checkfit=true

or this -
http://www.autozone.com/emission-control-and-exhaust/exhaust-system-hanger/walker-exhaust-system-hanger/277528_458130_17551?checkfit=true
I have used 2 of these for years to hang the muffler on my
MKIII - grind off the rivet heads, and throw away all the
metal parts, keep the rubber hangar and use it. It is cut
from a section of tire sidewall and flexes well without
coming apart. Every third year I throw them away and put in
new ones just so I don't have to worry about it.

I just have a bad feeling that those nice aluminum brackets
you currently have are going to fatigue, crack,  and
disappoint you. They look nice tho...

--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:13 pm    Post subject: Firestar 2 Progress PHOTOS 4th try Reply with quote

Wow... did I kill the Kolb list again....?

No, I think most are not doing anything more than sitting by the fire.

I know that the dust is thick on my plane at the moment.
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