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Kolb FSII for sale - This is where the pictures are

 
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Richard Pike



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:45 pm    Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale - This is where the pictures are Reply with quote

Since the list has been pretty quiet for a while (Hiding from Matt while he solicits donations?) I guess it is time to stick my head up and get back in the game...

I have acquired a Firestar II that is now for sale. The owner decided that he was no longer capable of committing aviation safely, and for reasons of liability, parted out a perfectly functional FSII. So somebody is going to get themselves a really good basket case/project.

So here's the deal: Kolb FSII, NDH, engine is a Rotax 503, dual carb, 418 TT, PTO end cylinder seized at 356 hours, bored to 2nd over. Runs good, B box, 2.58:1, 2 blade Ivo in excellent condition.

Wings are good, one LE has a slight indention in the front, should not be a problem. Cage is excellent. Instruments will be included. Nose bowl fairing not included, it is going to our Firefly project. Two damaged nose bowl fairings included, I could repair them, but now I don't need to. You can fix them if you wish. Or Bryan will be glad to sell you a new one.

Landing gear is straight, includes cable brakes. Previous owner modified the original thin wall axle/gear leg fittings to make them stronger. (?) Your call. Factory upgrade might be an idea...

Boom tube ~ Since the FSII uses the latest quick fold mechanism, we are taking the boom tube and tail assembly from this airplane and grafting it onto our Firefly project. So you will get a Firestar boom tube and tail assembly from an original Firestar. As best we can tell from the plans, there is no difference in the tubing sizes or dimensions of any of these parts. If anyone on the list knows different, I would be glad to be corrected, however, this is how I see it to the best of my knowledge. It is the white one in the pictures. The covering is fair, if it was mine I would uncover it and look it over closely.

The original Firestar used the original Kolb tail folding mechanism which is not as convenient as the current mechanism. It would not be terribly difficult to upgrade the tail to incorporate the current tail ring, vertical tail post, and elevator control system into the tail boom and elevators, but that is your call. I do have the elevator actuator/cable attach mechanism which can be included. I do not have the tail ring/vertical stab assembly or the elevator inserts, you would need to get them from Kolb if you wanted to upgrade to the newer system.

Or if you don't need to fold the tail on a regular basis, this system will work just fine.

$3500 for everything. No N numbers, no registration, this is a pure basket case sale, and the buyer will be signing for a collection of unairworthy parts of unknown description. The fuselage and wings have been de-skinned, no plumbing, fabric, wiring, Lexan, fuel tanks or cables. (Scrounging is good)
You will be buying in effect a KOLB FSII (mostly assembled kit) that needs to be recovered, wired, plumbed, and totally rebuilt, registered, etc. but signing a bill of sale that says you are buying a collection of unairworthy junk.

PM me. I need to get this thing out of my carport before the snow gets here. Phone 423-323-9441


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Kolb FSII for sale - Sold Reply with quote

Sold. Heading to Ohio.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Kolb FSII for sale - This is where the pictures are Reply with quote

Hello from Ohio. In my passed life I flew ultralights and some old Pipers. Interested in getting this great aircraft back into the air. This project is now in Ohio. Trying to decide which way to go with it. The air worthiness certificate was cancelled by the original builder, liability reasons I guess.. How would one re-certify or get new registration?

If it can't be re-certified, can it be built to ultralight weight. Open to all comments and useful info as well as negative comments.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Jim P.
War Eagle


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:31 pm    Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale - This is where the pictures are Reply with quote

Jim,

I would venture to say that a Firestar I (or II) cannot be built to the ultralight weight limit of 254 lbs (279 if a BRS is installed). Kolb advertised the original Firestar as "might need a BRS to qualify as an UL". And that model used a lot of the .028" wall thickness aluminum tubing in the wing and tail structure for lightness. And I am not sure of the wall thickness used for the steel tubing, but I was told by Kolb not to use any more power than the Rotax 447.

Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Rotax 447
22 years of flying/528 hours.

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