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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:15 pm    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

Kolbers,

I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”

Thanks,
Nick Cassara

Palmer, Alaska

607AK


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:58 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2. I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..? I find Amazon to be the priciest
.so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube. Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they use much the same hardware...

By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb
On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
Quote:


Kolbers,

I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”

Thanks,
Nick Cassara

Palmer, Alaska

607AK




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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:08 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

Nick C/Kolbers:

Two problems with your request below.

-I didn't make it to S&F.

-At Gantt International Airport there is no ADSB requirement. Therefore I have not paid much attention to it. Have no idea what the equipment looks like or what the requirements are for installing and use.

john h
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Titus, Alabama


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:11 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same time, unless you 'root' it.

Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home.�
Charlie
(Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )
-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy <herbgh(at)nctc.com>

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2.�� I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

�� Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..?� I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

�� Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

���� Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube.� Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they� use much the same hardware...

�� By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.�
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

�� Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb
On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
Quote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net>

Kolbers,

I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”

Thanks,
Nick Cassara

Palmer, Alaska

607AK



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

With the powered usb hub...should not be a large  problem...Herb

On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same time, unless you 'root' it.

Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home. 


Charlie
(Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )


-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: ADS-B Out


--> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy <herbgh(at)nctc.com> (herbgh(at)nctc.com)

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2.   I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

   Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..?  I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

   Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

     Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube.  Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they  use much the same hardware...

   By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF. 
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

   Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb


On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> (nickc(at)mtaonline.net)
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
> I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> 607AK
>
>
>
>






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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

You can power the radio with it, but the 7 won't charge while in usb otg mode.

-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 10:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out

With the powered usb hub...should not be a large� problem...Herb

On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same time, unless you 'root' it.

Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home.�


Charlie
(Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )


-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out


--> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy <herbgh(at)nctc.com> (herbgh(at)nctc.com)

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2.�� I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

�� Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..?� I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

�� Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

���� Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube.� Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they� use much the same hardware...

�� By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.�
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

�� Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb


On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> (nickc(at)mtaonline.net)
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
> I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> 607AK
>
>
>
>






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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

 If the Nexus is fully charged...it would be important to use a powered hub ...The discharge on the Nexus would be fairly normal then... Herb

On 04/07/2017 11:43 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
You can power the radio with it, but the 7 won't charge while in usb otg mode.

-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 10:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: ADS-B Out



With the powered usb hub...should not be a large  problem...Herb

On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same time, unless you 'root' it.

Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home. 


Charlie
(Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )


-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: ADS-B Out


--> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy <herbgh(at)nctc.com> (herbgh(at)nctc.com)

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2.   I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

   Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..?  I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

   Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

     Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube.  Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they  use much the same hardware...

   By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF. 
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

   Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb


On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> (nickc(at)mtaonline.net)
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
> I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> 607AK
>
>
>
>







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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: ADS-B Out Reply with quote

That's what I've been doing.�

-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out

�If the Nexus is fully charged...it would be important to use a powered hub ...The discharge on the Nexus would be fairly normal then... Herb

On 04/07/2017 11:43 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
You can power the radio with it, but the 7 won't charge while in usb otg mode.

-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 10:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out



With the powered usb hub...should not be a large� problem...Herb

On 04/07/2017 09:11 AM, Charlie England wrote:

Quote:
Nexus 7 won't allow you to charge it and see the dongle at the same time, unless you 'root' it.

Lots of info out there; I'll try to send some links when I get home.�


Charlie
(Loading a Twinstar project on the trailer today! )


-------- Original message --------
From: Hoppy
Date:04/07/2017 8:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADS-B Out


--> Kolb-List message posted by: Hoppy <herbgh(at)nctc.com> (herbgh(at)nctc.com)

I figure there are guys on the list who are way ahead of me on this
application...?

I have likely said this before but I am playing with adsb...receive only
on a Nexus 7 with a NooElec nesdr t2.�� I have never taken it outdoors
to get signals but seems to work software wise.. I use Avare navigation
which is free along with Avare adsb app, also free.

�� Nexus runs android software ...The nexus was 50 bucks at a pawn
shop..The dongle (noo elec software defined radio) was 19 bucks.. I
think they are available for less..?� I find Amazon to be the priciest
..so I usually buy from Ebay...specify free shipping and US location..

�� Should receive adsb and weather... One possible problem is the drain
on the tablet battery...I bought an usb , self powered, extender at an
Amazon outlet for 5 bucks...flying, it will require conversion from 12
to 5 volts.. A three terminal regulator and a couple of capacitors
work...but likely those devices are available from "big Red" for a few
bucks..

���� Naturally this sort of device and its multiple usages are all over
youtube.� Some fellows are repackaging the whole kit and caboodle and
asking big bucks for them... Hardware is cheap so it is all in the
software... Glass cockpits use the same or similar hardware. But want
10k or better for their brew.. and they� use much the same hardware...

�� By now there should be total engine management as well as flight
instrument replacement software and hardware for a Tablet ...The
interface to egt,cht,oil pressure,etc can be made with a 7 dollar micro
computer..called the Arduino...for it and the Raspberry Pi (35 bucks)
have multiple analog inputs for sensors . The flight instruments (less
airspeed) can be accomplished with a device the size of a postage stamp
called a 9dof(degrees of freedom) 10 bucks.. it has an altimeter
chip,magnetometer,gyro...The Arduino is the size of a credit card.. 7
bucks... Both computers have a serial port that interfaces to the 9DOF.�
Should be fairly easy to tie the computer to aileron, and elevator trim
for some sort of wing leveling to relax the work load on cross
countries.. A large three wire , model airplane, servo would work..

�� Still looking for a Firefly or Firestar re builder... Herb


On 04/07/2017 02:03 AM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> (nickc(at)mtaonline.net)
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am wondering if anyone has installed an ADS-B Out, or In and Out, in there Kolb yet? Open Flight Solutions is the most affordable system I have heard of so far.
> I would appreciate your input. Hopefully John will check it out for us at “Fun in the Sun.”
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> 607AK
>
>
>
>







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