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belinda(at)gloverb.freese
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Pete and Paddy,

  

 Dave Joyce has organised another fly in for Lundy on Sunday. It is a  combined Devon Strut and Gloucester strut event. There will be at least 3  Europas going including Dave's and Tim Houlahan's and us.

  

 If you wanted to join us I am sure you are welcome, try Dave's email to let  him know as he will PPR the group of failing that contact Lundy  direct.

  

 Regards

 Gary

  

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pete(at)lawless.info
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Hi Gary  

   

Nothing I have heard about Lundy would encourage me to land a mono wheel Europa there.  The risks of a prop strike are just too high.  Now a proper tail dragger would be a different matter.  

   

Regards  

   

Pete

davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Peter, been there several times in mine, with other monos too. Never a sniff

of concern for the prop. In fact I think that Lundy was designed for the

Europa mono & vice-versa! Much easier than Bill Wynne's strip. Regards,

David

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bryan(at)blackballclub.co
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Hi Pete,

  

 Please explain!

  

 Bryan Allsop

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

<<Now a proper tail  dragger would be a different matter>>

  

 Hear Hear!

  

 Duncan McF

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pete(at)lawless.info
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Evening Bryan  

   

Well I am based on hearsay from others who have been there, but if you remember the accident stats from last year (or was it the previous year?) there were 2 aeroplanes badly damaged, one of which I think caught fire.   

   

The latest information I have is from a mate who visited a few weeks ago, he described it as very rough with rocks sticking through the surface.  It only needs a combination of a slight bounce combined with a protruding rock either under the tail wheel or under the prop and there you have the making of a problem.  Now the thought of dealing with a replacement prop on Lundy just does not appeal to me – especially as my prop is NSI and any replacement blades, if indeed they can still be got, are likely to take months to arrive.  Meanwhile, I would be faced with an aeroplane tied down, in the open, on a rock in the Bristol  Channel.  It is simply not a risk I am prepared to take.   

   

Now if I still had my Cub I would not hesitate, plenty of prop clearance with the tail down.  

   

Regards  

   

Pete  

   

 Hi Pete,  

   

Please explain!  

   

Bryan Allsop  

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belinda(at)gloverb.freese
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Pete,

  

 Interesting, are you saying you feel there is still a risk of a prop strike  even if the Europa mono continues to drag its tail, ie tailwheel on the  deck?

  

 Gary 

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Hi    Gary   

    

Nothing I have heard    about Lundy would encourage me to land a mono wheel Europa there.  The    risks of a prop strike are just too high.  Now a proper tail dragger    would be a different matter.   

    

Regards   

    

Pete

pete(at)lawless.info
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Morning Gary  

   

It is not the tail on the deck I am concerned about.  The suspension on the main wheel is quite soft and it is possible for it to compress a long way down.  If, when it is in this state, you raise the tail by running it into a bump down goes the nose and with it the prop.  

   

Regards  

   

Pete

davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Bryan, The plane which burnt out was a Cessna, involved in a take off

incident where he started of about 20 deg L of runway direction, came over

the hump to find himself heading for all the parked aircraft, hauled up to

get over the top of them and stalled in. The other was a landing incident

with I am told poorly controlled speed and approach path, putting it on the

ground when he should have gone around and bending his tricycle front wheel.

These are apparently the only accidents since the dawn of history when a DH

Rapide got lost and tried to put down there. Regards, David Joyce

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: Gary McKirdy's Europa flying-Lundy this weekend

Added to which, with the forecast easterly wind,  the poorer runway direction would be in use.

  

 Duncan McF

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