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jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has 

seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc.  I 

am currently receiving both hormone and chemo treatment.  I received 

the third of four planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I 

don't think I have slept more than twenty total hours since that 

time.  While I have been eating good during this week, I have lost 

five pounds with my only exercise being to walk from room to 

room.  Based on the first two sessions, I will be feeling much better 

in a few days.  Right now I am so weak that sitting at my computer is 

an effort.  Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I need to 

tell you that my choice of treatment is really working.  After only 

two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of 

the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen 

to 0.01--that's pretty near zero.  These are not medical charts.  My 

PhD. chemical engineer son did them for me.  He does a lot of 

modeling in his research.  Of course the charts may be wrong, but 

even my last number is fantastic.  My doctors performed all known 

scans and I even had my  previously radiated prostate biopsied, and 

no actual cancer was ever found anywhere in mybody.  Subjecting 

oneself to chemo under these circumstances is not standard 

practice.  I linked up with a young oncologist who said "Lets try 

it."  There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get a new 

medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience 

that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for 

months before they act.  This plus my age (70 years) means that 

keeping a current medical could be a real pain in the back.  If 

anyone wants more info on my cancer experience, I am glad to share.



I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original 

inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop 

package, establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in 

order.  He does not want me to surrender my current registration and 

rebuild from a retained portion of the aircraft.  Bill Ray who 

provided builder assistance for the final part of the original Series 

5 project had me show the gross weight at 1650 lbs. for floats, 

etc.  I think that works to my advantage now because with a small 

engine, there is no justification for that weight, if there ever 

was.  Therefore lowering it is only responsible.



That brings me to the point of this email.  Last night while lying in 

bed and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions.  I will 

bite the bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo 

engine so as to own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying 

under the light sport designation.  I also plan to sell my 38T Hans 

Christian sailboat I keep in Hawaii.  I do not have time to keep all 

of my toys working!  I need to simplify my life.  To ease my 

withdrawal, my son suggested a sailboat simulator.  He says all I 

need to do is stand in my shower and tear up twenty dollar bills.  My 

experience is that they would need to be hundred dollar bills.  Since 

I spend most of my time in Colorado where my Kitfox is hangered, I 

will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't propose a simulator 

for owning and flying a Kitfox.



Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the 

kinks.  At least those that I knew of.  My last problem was with a 

Scott tail wheel that shimmied.  After three efforts of having my 

tail wheel spring re bent, I think that was probably solved and when 

we went to test it a few months back, we discovered that one of the 

ignitions was not working.  With my other above problems, I had no 

time to check it out.  I do not want to sell the engine without 

disclosing everything I know including that NSI is no longer in 

business.  My original payment to NSI totaled $17,438.70 at the time 

of purchase.  I think they went up some after that.  I have since 

added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless steel 

exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a high 

temperature coating.  All at siginificant cost.  The exhauset 

crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully.  I also have the 

digital prop pitch indicator which is working.



I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on 

the dollar as is.  Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b. 

Loveland, Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my 

upgrades.  The engine has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12 

of those flying.  I want to offer someone in different circumstances 

than mine, a high performance experimental engine package at a 

deal.  It would also recover some of my costs which I can use toward 

buying an engine appropriate for a light sport aircraft.



Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight 

monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the 

dollar of the purchase prices.  I plan to make every thing very 

simple and basic.



Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices.  I am sure 

both I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.



Jim Crowder

Graeme Toft

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 123

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Hi Jim, thanks for sharing your battle with cancer with us. I wish you all 

the best and hope the positive results you are getting continue through to 

your recovery. I had a bad experience that I shared with the list members 

and to be honest it was great to know so much support and concern for my 

well being was there. Please keep us informed of your progress.



Kind Regards

Graeme



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jc(at)arcom.com.au
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

G'day Jim     sorry to hear your plight, I just heard a very good friend of 

mine has stomach cancer, she is a registered nurse and I have been 

researching info and came across a very well respected Organisation in 

Melbourne that has had excellent success with all types of cancer, here are 

the contacts info ... just my two bob's worth,     have a couple of guys 

putting in Subys into the Aeropups, if I get another customer that wants one 

I will refer them to you,  regards from John at Aeropup in Oz



The Gawler Foundation

Profound Healing, Sustainable Wellbeing



Yvonne Waters

Support Services Officer

The Gawler Foundation

55 Rayner Court, Yarra Junction, Victoria 3797

Ph: (03) 5967 1730 Fax: (03) 5967 1715

Email: info(at)gawler.org Web: www.gawler.org



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shoeless(at)barefootpilot
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Jim,

I'm really sorry to hear about your cancer problems. I lost my dad to cancer 

just two months ago.

Let me know when you feel well enough, I'll take you up for a ride in the 

fox.

Best,

Cliff



I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has

seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc.  I

am currently receiving both hormone and chemo treatment.  I received

the third of four planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I

don't think I have slept more than twenty total hours since that

time.  While I have been eating good during this week, I have lost

five pounds with my only exercise being to walk from room to

room.  Based on the first two sessions, I will be feeling much better

in a few days.  Right now I am so weak that sitting at my computer is

an effort.  Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I need to

tell you that my choice of treatment is really working.  After only

two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of

the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen

to 0.01--that's pretty near zero.  These are not medical charts.  My

PhD. chemical engineer son did them for me.  He does a lot of

modeling in his research.  Of course the charts may be wrong, but

even my last number is fantastic.  My doctors performed all known

scans and I even had my  previously radiated prostate biopsied, and

no actual cancer was ever found anywhere in mybody.  Subjecting

oneself to chemo under these circumstances is not standard

practice.  I linked up with a young oncologist who said "Lets try

it."  There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get a new

medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience

that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for

months before they act.  This plus my age (70 years) means that

keeping a current medical could be a real pain in the back.  If

anyone wants more info on my cancer experience, I am glad to share.



I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original

inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop

package, establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in

order.  He does not want me to surrender my current registration and

rebuild from a retained portion of the aircraft.  Bill Ray who

provided builder assistance for the final part of the original Series

5 project had me show the gross weight at 1650 lbs. for floats,

etc.  I think that works to my advantage now because with a small

engine, there is no justification for that weight, if there ever

was.  Therefore lowering it is only responsible.



That brings me to the point of this email.  Last night while lying in

bed and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions.  I will

bite the bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo

engine so as to own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying

under the light sport designation.  I also plan to sell my 38T Hans

Christian sailboat I keep in Hawaii.  I do not have time to keep all

of my toys working!  I need to simplify my life.  To ease my

withdrawal, my son suggested a sailboat simulator.  He says all I

need to do is stand in my shower and tear up twenty dollar bills.  My

experience is that they would need to be hundred dollar bills.  Since

I spend most of my time in Colorado where my Kitfox is hangered, I

will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't propose a simulator

for owning and flying a Kitfox.



Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the

kinks.  At least those that I knew of.  My last problem was with a

Scott tail wheel that shimmied.  After three efforts of having my

tail wheel spring re bent, I think that was probably solved and when

we went to test it a few months back, we discovered that one of the

ignitions was not working.  With my other above problems, I had no

time to check it out.  I do not want to sell the engine without

disclosing everything I know including that NSI is no longer in

business.  My original payment to NSI totaled $17,438.70 at the time

of purchase.  I think they went up some after that.  I have since

added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless steel

exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a high

temperature coating.  All at siginificant cost.  The exhauset

crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully.  I also have the

digital prop pitch indicator which is working.



I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on

the dollar as is.  Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b.

Loveland, Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my

upgrades.  The engine has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12

of those flying.  I want to offer someone in different circumstances

than mine, a high performance experimental engine package at a

deal.  It would also recover some of my costs which I can use toward

buying an engine appropriate for a light sport aircraft.



Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight

monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the

dollar of the purchase prices.  I plan to make every thing very

simple and basic.



Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices.  I am sure

both I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.



Jim Crowder

fredshiple(at)sbcglobal.n
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Jim, 

I think you're possibly making a decision regarding FAA requiremints with too little information. I'm a 60 y/o semi-retired physician and have dealt with the FAA and cancer twice in the last 12 years -cured of both testiculat and prostate cancer.

The hoops I went thru 12 years ago (1st ca surgery) are gone. All I needed last year (prostate ca) was a knowledgable AME and I was able to get the approval 3 months after my surgery on the same day I visited the AME. A friend got his medical approved (cardiac stent) by phone with the FAA with instructions on where to mail the appropriate medical records.

The FAA has truly streamlined the process, particularly for the more common serious maladies such as prostate ca where success can be determined by psa levels. I'd give the FAA a shot before doing something too radical with my 'Fox

Contact me off line if you need more info. Good luck with your treatment program.

Fred

 	  Quote: 	
		  I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has 

seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc.  I

Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:53 PM, QSS wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi Jim, thanks for sharing your battle with cancer with us. <SNIP> 

 Please keep us informed of your progress.


	


Yes, please, do that Jim. Our beloved Kitfoxes are merely machine but 

this list consists of people and we care for each other. Best of luck,



Michel



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n10pg(at)neo.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Hello Jim:

Sorry to hear about your plight. Been there, done that! Or better, am there

doing that.

Concerning your ignition problems, it most likely is failure of one of the

mag pickups or an ignition isolation module. I can help you with replacement

of either one.

Sincerely,

Peter Graichen

http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm 



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cliffh(at)outdrs.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Apparently you have had better luck with the FAA  Medical center than I did.

 I had a first class medical until  1988.

 I had a double bypass surgery in Nov 1988. The  FAA required me to have $1500 worth of tests every year since.

 I would take the tests in Jan and send them to the  medical center. I would not receive my third class medical until Jun or  July. Then they would only make it valid until the next Jan, so I only had a  medical for six months.

 Last Jan I decided that I would go with the Sport  Pilot route.

  

 Floran H.

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nebchmp(at)wcc.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

It's my understanding that once an acft. has been registered as a anything above a LSA .  It can't be changed to be a LSA. You should check to be sure.       Norm.

 

 JJProbasco(at)cs.com (JJProbasco(at)cs.com) wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  I too have an EA81 and cockpit adjustable Prop.  The bad news is I have not completed building to the point that I have registered the aircraft.  It's also the good news because I too am contemplating building my Model 5 very light and registering it as an ELSA.  

   

 Here's my point:  It is my understanding that the light sport plane rules don't allow an aircraft that has been operated with an adjustable prop to be "downgraded" to a LSA, even if the prop is replaced with a fixed pitch one.  (Do I have it right?)

bsmith3163(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Here is something that I got from an EAA mailing  today.  Hopefully I will not be sued for putting this out.  Brian  Smith.

  

  

07/13/06 - FAA REITERATES STANCE ON  LSA DEFINITION 

In denying an exemption request from the  International Cessna 120/140 Association, the FAA has reiterated its stance  against changing weight limitations for previously certificated aircraft to make  them eligible for sport pilots to fly. 

The International Cessna 120/140 Association had  requested the FAA allow owners of Cessna 120/140 operating under the  Supplemental Type Certificate (STC) SA0248AT, which lowers the aircraft’s  maximum gross weight from 1,450 pounds to 1,320 pounds, to fly the aircraft as  sport pilots. 

The 120/140 Association cited the economic benefit of  allowing its members to continue to operate aircraft with which they had  significant experience and. The 120/140 Association also noted the FAA granted  the STC while it was developing the sport pilot rule, which the 120/140  Association called “evidence of its (FAA’s) willingness to consider the relief  requested….” 

In mid-July, the FAA denied the exemption, stating  “…The petitioner has not shown how…the exemption would be in the public interest  or provide a level of safety equivalent to that provided by the regulation…. In  the final rule, the FAA determined existing aircraft are not to be modified to  reduce an aircraft’s capabilities to meet the definition of a light-sport  aircraft. Granting the petitioner’s request would not be consistent with the  intent of the rule.” In the Preamble to the rule the FAA stated, “…in  prohibiting modifications to aircraft to meet the light-sport aircraft  definition, the FAA seeks to ensure that the light-sport aircraft operating  characteristics are consistent with the skills and training for the sport pilot”  (69 FR 44792). It added, “The FAA specifically considered the applicant’s STC  project in developing the final rule, and the issuance of the STC was a factor  in the FAA’s decision to prohibit modifications to existing aircraft to meet the  light-sport aircraft definition.” 

The FAA agreed with the petition’s assertion that  using type-certificated aircraft with a proven safety record benefits sport  pilot operations. However, it asserted that the safety record of  type-certificated aircraft is a reflection of both the quality of the aircraft  design and the skill level of the pilots who have traditionally operated those  aircraft. 



   From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Norm

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:22 PM

To:  kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Selling My NSI  Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

 

It's my understanding that once an acft. has been registered as a  anything above a LSA .  It can't be changed to be a LSA. You should check  to be sure.       Norm.



JJProbasco(at)cs.com (JJProbasco(at)cs.com) wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  I too have an EA81 and cockpit adjustable Prop.  The bad news    is I have not completed building to the point that I have registered the    aircraft.  It's also the good news because I too am contemplating    building my Model 5 very light and registering it as an ELSA.     



Here's my point:  It is my understanding that the light sport    plane rules don't allow an aircraft that has been operated with an adjustable    prop to be "downgraded" to a LSA, even if the prop is replaced with a fixed    pitch one.  (Do I have it right?)

flier(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

If it  was initially constructed and registered with an inflight adjustable prop  then it can never be flown as an LSA.  Mr. Blackwell and I firmly  established that a few months ago   ;^)

  

 Regards,

  

 Ted

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jimlc(at)att.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package

Ok guys.  I have now made a firm decision to sell my very low time engine and prop package.  I had a very nice talk with John McBean this morning and the complete Rotax firewall forward package with a simple prop will cost me right at $20K.  I am going to now offer my currently installed NSI Turbo CAP package as a firewall forward package.  It will include everything I have, including the cowling, firewall, engine mount, CAP prop, radiator, fuel pump--everything for $8,500.00.



 I will fix the ignition problem that I just discovered and mentioned in my previous email.  The engine has dual ignitions and upon my last shutdown, I discovered that one side was not working.  I had implied that I would not fix that, but it is not that big a deal, and I will now fix it with Peter Graichen's help.  Before I would buy a used engine, I would want to be able to see it running, and that is what I am offering.



 This is too heavy a package for the early Kitfoxes, including the current Model 4's.  I sincerely believe it is a very solid engine for the bigger Foxes, with extra juice provided by the automotive turbocharger and the cabin adjustable prop which allows maximum efficiency for both takeoffs and cruising.  This price will allow someone with a Model 5 and up, to substantially reduce their dollar outlay, and still own an engine that will produce smiles.   I believe the EA81 Subaru's are the most popular auto conversions powering aircraft.  Most parts can be purchased as automotive parts.  A lot cheaper than aircraft parts as we all know.  No engine choice is without drawbacks, buy this one has a lot going for it, especially its condition and its price.  No way, though, will it qualify for a Light Sport Aircraft.



 For those who have expressed concern regarding my current prostate cancer status.  Not to worry.  The prostate cancer, if I even have it, is currently well under control and offers no current threat to my life and well being.  It is my current treatments including chemo that are a bitch, but they are and have worked.  Today I have felt much better and in a week or so, I will be back to near normal.  Then July 27th I get my final treatment.  My first treatments held for nine years and I expect at least that much again.  



 I called Peter Graichen today, and I think he is probably the most expert person on NSI engines outside of the original designers.  He now has over 1000 hours on his, and still loves it.  He flies it everyday.  Peter is behind my decision to go ahead and repair mine before selling it.  After our talk, he believes my problem lies in a faulty pickup.  There are two.  He gave me detailed instructions regarding their operation and troubleshooting.  As soon as my treatments are over, I plan to remove my pickups, and use my parent airline flying privileges to fly to Ohio.  Peter says he will pick me up at the airport and spend the day building replacement pickups and will share a ton of NSI knowledge with me.  I can't pass this up.  I first met Peter when he was building his Oskosh award winning plane in Longmont, Colorado.  Peter is a true craftsman and a heck of a fellow.



 On a less happy note, while Peter was trying to encourage me in dealing with my cancer problem, he let it slip that he is having similar treatments, and I am guessing that his threat is more serious than mine, as most are.  He said it was not going to keep him away from Oshkosh this year.  Peter is of the strong German warrior mold, and not one to seek sympathy.  He allowed us to spend no time dwelling on his condition, and I do not have his permission to share my knowledge.  I hope he will forgive me, but I know what a caring bunch the members of this list are, and I know all will want to give him their personal encouragement, best wishes, and their prayers.  Peter Graichen truly is our friend.



 Sorry Peter, I felt I had to do this.



 Jim Crowder

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