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tamara_b(at)telus.net
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Oil Confusion Reply with quote
Gentlemen,

here comes again that so often
exhausted question about the right
oil for the Housai engine.

I put in one year 200 hours on my
CJ and used like the previous owner
the Phillips 66 25-60 oil.
Now my new AME (who was raised
and trained in East Europe) told me to
not use the Phillips oil on those engines.
According to him, the Phillips oil is designed
for American Radial Engines and will do more
harm than good to the East-Bloc engines.
His recommendation is the Aeroshell W100 Plus,
the closest oil to the specs of Housai, M14 series,
M462RF, etc.

What do you think, your opinion is much appreciated.

cheers

Elmar (C-FTKL)

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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Oil Confusion Reply with quote
Most everyone I know that uses Philips 25W-60 has told me their oil
consumption is less and their engines run much better year round with this
multiviscosity. This is particularly true during the colder months. Most
engine wear occurs immediately at start up. In the colder months when oil
pressure takes a few seconds to reach normal pressure, this is the time when
wear occurs. The 25W-60 helps reduce wear. If the oil you are using
remains on the moving parts for a longer period of time, then wear will be
reduced. Personally I would not go back to Aeroshell 100W unless of course
I could not get the Philips.

On the M14, one of the reasons the engines typically use about 1 quart per
hour is because of the very loose tolerances between the piston and the
cylinder wall. Lycomings and Continental engines typically are between 4
and 8 thousands, if I am not mistaken. The M14 (and probably the Housai
engine as well) has about 20 thousands between the piston and the cylinder
wall. If the tolerance was down to about 8 thousands you'd probably only
use a quart every 4-5 hours.

Better lubrication is good for our engines and I am 100% convinced the
25W-60 provides better lubrication and protection against wear for our
engines.
Dennis

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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Oil Confusion Reply with quote
Whenever I use the multi grade oils, my engine (now 1,200 hours since new ) M-14p gets oil leaks.  I've been using Mobil 100 or 120 since day one.  I do know guys who really feel the multi grades are the best.  I truly do not know.
Pappy
 
 
 
Gentlemen,

here comes again that so often
exhausted question about the right
oil for the Housai engine.

I put in one year 200 hours on my
CJ and used like the previous owner
the Phillips 66 25-60 oil.
Now my new AME (who was raised
and trained in East Europe) told me to
not use the Phillips oil on those engines.
According to him, the Phillips oil is designed
for American Radial Engines and will do more
harm than good to the East-Bloc engines.
His recommendation is the Aeroshell W100 Plus,
the closest oil to the specs of Housai, M14 series,
M462RF, etc.

What do you think, your opinion is much appreciated.

cheers

Elmar (C-FTKL)

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fougapilot(at)hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Oil Confusion Reply with quote
I run my M14 on Aeroshell W100. The Multi viscosity for me is not a problem
since I mix it with W80 for the winter months and W120 for the few warm
months. Since these Aeroshell oil are compatible, I can adjust my viscosity
with the seasonal changes.

I was told be George Coy a few years back when my mechanics put Aeroshell
15W50 in my CJ to flush it ASAP. The additive used for this oil (my
understanding is it is the same additive that makes the + in the W100+) is
not good for the compressor shaft of the M14 engine. Unfortunately, by the
time I received this information, I already had 10hrs on the 15W50. Every
time I purged the air snort valve, a foamy beige stuff would spit out
instead of the usual mixture of moisture/air, which prompt me to ask
questions. After I changed back to W100, all returned to normal within about
2 hrs of flying. About 50hrs of flying later, I had a compressor failure.
Coincidence? Probably.

I couldn't tell you if the CJ compressor is affected in the same manner then
the M14, but I sure am glad to see my snort stuff back to normal.

D
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From: tamara_b(at)telus.net
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To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Oil Confusion
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:39:39 -0700


Gentlemen,

here comes again that so often
exhausted question about the right
oil for the Housai engine.

I put in one year 200 hours on my
CJ and used like the previous owner
the Phillips 66 25-60 oil.
Now my new AME (who was raised
and trained in East Europe) told me to
not use the Phillips oil on those engines.
According to him, the Phillips oil is designed
for American Radial Engines and will do more
harm than good to the East-Bloc engines.
His recommendation is the Aeroshell W100 Plus,
the closest oil to the specs of Housai, M14 series,
M462RF, etc.

What do you think, your opinion is much appreciated.

cheers

Elmar (C-FTKL)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Oil Confusion Reply with quote
any one out there using Automotive oil. What are the Pros & Cons.  FLUSH
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