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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:45 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Listers,

 I am looking to acquire Model IV 1200 taildragger.  Can  someone give me external dimensions with wings folded back.  I am thinking  of buying a trailer to hanger it.  Then tow the whole thing to local  airport.  

  

 Anyone tried this?

 Many thanks,

 Ken Arnold

 Pikeville, NC  

  

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dave(at)cfisher.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Ken -- off the top of my head i will say   about 7 ' 10 " wide

 22 feet long

 6 feet high

  

 Now the problem might be finding a trailer that  wide inside. 

 I have seen them loaded with one wing off and  tucked underneath between the mail wheels. 

  

 Hope this helps 

  

  

 Dave

  

  

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mdps_mc(at)swoca.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Ken

The length is approx. 21 to 22 feet.  I trailered mine one time to the airport with intentions of doing so everytime.  Although fairly easy to do I didn't like the potential beating tjhe folded wings would take from the road.  I have hangered for ten years.  I am thinking about using a trailer as my hanger at the airport.  The cost of hanger space continues to rise.  However I'm not sure I would even be allowed to do this.



Mike

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device  



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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Thanks Dave, I don't know how difficult it is to remove one  wing.  I will have to check with the builder.  Removal would require  plugs for electrical, fuel and control cables.  Is that a big deal?   

  

 I only live 5 miles from airport and was thinking of hangering  it in the trailer.  Of course, if I use wife's garage, I could use a flat  bed trailer to move it.  Towing the plane behind my truck doesn't sound too  good.

  

 Again, thanks,

 Ken

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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Mike,

Many thanks.  The width should be slightly less than 8' I would imagine. 

So, a trailer with inside dimensions of 8'x8'x24' might work.  Now to find 

an affordable trailer.  I have a pick up truck for towing.  I also agree 

that towing the plane out in the open does not sound like a good approach.



I live about 5 miles from the airport and the roads are not heavily 

traveled.  Trailering it would be easy.



Ken

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bnn(at)nethere.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Ken,

         I'm doing the same thing, since it will cost me only $95/mo for the trailer spot versus $450/mo for a hangar here in Ramona. The critical dimensions on my Kitfox IV are the width across the wings when folded, (95.5") and the height of the prop when you try to push it through the door. (~73" with 6x6 tires.) My trailer is 96.5" across at the door opening, which leaves only 1/2" clearance, but it's surprisingly easy to get it in and out. (I'll put 1/4" neoprene on the internal sides, as well, for padding.) I've put a 3" C-channel on the floor to guide the tail wheel, and permanent chocks to guide the mains. I use a 2:1 block and tackle with a Harken ratchet to pull it in or ease it out.

         I looked at a lot of box trailers and found most of them too narrow at the door. Mine has the tail lights in the door so the opening can be wider. You can have the trailer made any height, but I was impatient and bought one off the lot with a 75" door opening. I wish it was 6" or 9" higher, since I can't put bush wheels on and fit the plane in the trailer. I also bought a 22' trailer, but a 24' would be better, as my plane fits with only 3" to spare, length-wise. I bought the 22' because it was a lot lighter. (7000# gross versus 10000# gross.) Again, you can have lighter trailers made custom for the same price, but the resale plummets. (These trailers are typically used to move cars.) I put six tie-downs inside and my plane seems to ride very comfortably. I also made wing supports, and will be making a tail support to unload the tail wheel when trailering. (I'll use the wing supports any time the wings are folded, since the fuel weighs a lot.)

         Let me know if you have any other questions.



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		  Listers,

 I am looking to acquire Model IV 1200 taildragger.  Can someone give me external dimensions with wings folded back.  I am thinking of buying a trailer to hanger it.  Then tow the whole thing to local airport.  

  

 Anyone tried this?

 Many thanks,

 Ken Arnold

 Pikeville, NC  

  

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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Hi Ken.

   

  I'm attaching a 3 view drawing of my model 2. I don't think the outside dimensions changed much from M2 to M4. I've been towing from home garage to the airport (6 miles each way) since last July, using an open trailer and fore/aft wing trailering braces. I drain fuel to lighten the load and support the tail to save the tailwheel spring. It seems to work fine. I know there are alot of others out there who do the same. I think this is what Dan Denney had in mind when he designed the Fox with folding wings.



Ken Arnold <arno7452(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:

  [quote]        Thanks Dave, I don't know how difficult it is to remove one wing.  I will have to check with the builder.  Removal would  require plugs for electrical, fuel and control cables.  Is that a big deal?  

   

  I only live 5 miles from airport and was thinking of hangering it in the trailer.  Of course, if I use wife's garage, I could use a flat bed trailer to move it.  Towing the plane behind my truck doesn't sound too good.

   

  Again, thanks,

  Ken

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jcz(at)chello.at
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Hi, Ken,



Many years ago I posted a 3-view drawing of the Model IV on the Sportflight.

I just checked there and I can't find it, though I'm sure Don Pearsall would

know where it hides.



Anyhow, since image files can be sent attached to postings these days

perhaps it would help if I mailed you a copy of the drawing right here.



Kind regards,



Johannes

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FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Towing a Kitfox on an open trailer is no big deal.  

I've done it for years and have seen no degradation 

whatsoever to mine.  If the trailer is built to 

handle the plane correctly it's a piece of cake.  



I've also towed long distances of up to 1000 miles 

round trip.  Friends have used my trailer to retrieve 

a couple of Kitfoxes they've purchased out of state.



It's nice to be in a hangar but it's also nice to 

avoid that few hundred bucks a month rental!



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bnn(at)nethere.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

At 10:45 AM 7/13/2006, you wrote:

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		  Anyhow, since image files can be sent attached to postings these days

perhaps it would help if I mailed you a copy of the drawing right here.


	


Johannes,

         That's a great drawing. If you have a high-resolution version 

would you be so kind as to post the highest resolution you can on Sportflight?



Thanks,

Guy Buchanan

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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jcz(at)chello.at
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Hi, Guy,



Unfortunately this drawing stems from more than 10 years back, the time when

I built my own Kitfox. I don't even know where I got it from, though I

remember it WAS a SkyStar original showing the views with wings extended. I

manually added the views with the wings folded. Then, as this was way before

digital photography, I produced copies in a photocopier. I have no idea how

I finally ended up with that *.JPG file - the only thing I can see from it

now is that it was produced in June 1998.



However, as I already mentioned in my first posting yesterday, I think I did

post it to the Sportflight Web site though I'm not even sure of that.

Hopefully Don Pearsall will chime in and tell us whether my drawing is still

hidden somewhere on his site.



Kind regards,



Johannes



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morid(at)northland.lib.mi
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

I think Don might currently be in Bonneville trying to set a world speed

record with his bike.

Be patient.  He'll see the message and respond as soon as he can, I'm sure.

Deke



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aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Johannes,  I remember from years ago that you had the "ultimate" Kitfox trailer.  Do you still have pictures or details?  Pete Lee (retired maritime museum director and Kitfox IV flyer)



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jcz(at)chello.at
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: Model IV 1200 Dimensions

Hi, Pete,



Unfortunately that huge thing - "Spaceship Enterprise" as my friends used to

call it - was built sort of semi-professionally by someone else, and in

another country on top of that, so I never had any sort of dimensional

drawings. The only "documentation" I had to provide to get it certified for

road traffic use was two copies of just ONE photo, and this can still be

seen in the "Trailers" section at the Sportflight site.



Kind regards,



Johannes



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