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		herbgh(at)nctc.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:54 am    Post subject: Kolb Firestar | 
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				Martin
 
     Guessing  that plane is close to UL in weight?   Wish it were not so 
 far away.  Herb
 On 11/28/2017 09:24 PM, wakataka wrote:
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  Herb -
  Looks like I'm going to be selling my Firestar. I own it jointly with a friend and he's getting out of flying. I've got another airplane so this one will be surplus. I haven't listed it anywhere yet. Here's a video that shows a bit of what it looks like.
 
  https://youtu.be/toCBMcCzrzg
 
  I planned to do a detailed video of the bird when I listed it. It's a 1985 Firestar with a Rotax 377 and a 64" Warp Drive Prop. The fabric is original but it's well done. I punch tested it just last week and it passed. It has a BRS that still has a couple of years before it expires and a strobe. The panel is basic steam guages. It's got mechanical, heel-operated disc brakes and the original "wheel barrow" wheels. I've owned it for about 5 years. I replaced the spring washers in the gearbox when I bought it. I put a Ducati electronic ignition on it and replaced the pistons and cylinders with good used ones. I've got a lot of spares for it, including a dual carb set up that I never installed and a spare set of pistons and cylinders. It flies regularly and runs very smoothly. It's not the prettiest bird around but it's airworthy and flies nicely. I'll attach a few photos from Barnstormers when I bought the plane back in 2012, but it looks pretty much the same. I replaced the an!
    alog tach with a Tiny Tach.
 
  I'd like to get $3,500 for it. It's located in Corning, California.
 
  Martin B.
 
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  There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
 
  Mark Twain
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:29 am    Post subject: Kolb Firestar | 
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				Herb, I'm guessing that one of the shipping "bid" agencies (U-ship, etc.) will transport the airplane for under $1000. The key to the whole thing will be that Martin would have to be willing to pack and load the airplane into the truck or trailer, rather than having a non-aviation driver do it. 
 
 A little extra effort will pay off in money and a damage free trip.  Hang the wings from the roof of the trailer or truck box so they are above the rest of the stuff in there, and so nothing is sliding or vibrating against them while any other people's stuff is loaded and unloaded. Take the prop off and put it in a separate box. Put a "dummy" set of wheels on much shorter "dummy" dowel or tube gear legs so the cubic volume of the fuselage gets smaller.
 
 All I'm saying is that IF you want Martin's light weight and great flying Firestar... there are ways to reduce the cost of getting it there.
 
 Bill Berle
 www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
 www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
 
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 On Wed, 11/29/17, SugarDad <herbgh(at)nctc.com> wrote:
 
  Subject: Kolb Firestar
  To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 5:52 AM
  
  
  <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
  
  Martin
  
      Guessing  that plane is close to
  UL in weight?   Wish it were not so 
  far away.  Herb
  
  
  On 11/28/2017 09:24 PM, wakataka
  wrote:
  > --> Kolb-List message posted
  by: "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net>
  >
  > Herb -
  > Looks like I'm going to be selling
  my Firestar. I own it jointly with a friend and he's getting
  out of flying. I've got another airplane so this one will be
  surplus. I haven't listed it anywhere yet. Here's a video
  that shows a bit of what it looks like.
  >
  > https://youtu.be/toCBMcCzrzg
  >
  > I planned to do a detailed video
  of the bird when I listed it. It's a 1985 Firestar with a
  Rotax 377 and a 64" Warp Drive Prop. The fabric is original
  but it's well done. I punch tested it just last week and it
  passed. It has a BRS that still has a couple of years before
  it expires and a strobe. The panel is basic steam guages.
  It's got mechanical, heel-operated disc brakes and the
  original "wheel barrow" wheels. I've owned it for about 5
  years. I replaced the spring washers in the gearbox when I
  bought it. I put a Ducati electronic ignition on it and
  replaced the pistons and cylinders with good used ones. I've
  got a lot of spares for it, including a dual carb set up
  that I never installed and a spare set of pistons and
  cylinders. It flies regularly and runs very smoothly. It's
  not the prettiest bird around but it's airworthy and flies
  nicely. I'll attach a few photos from Barnstormers when I
  bought the plane back in 2012, but it looks pretty much the
  same. I replaced the !
   an!
  >   alog tach with a Tiny
  Tach.
  >
  > I'd like to get $3,500 for it.
  It's located in Corning, California.
  >
  > Martin B.
  >
  > --------
  > There is something fascinating
  about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
  out of such a trifling investment of fact.
  >
  > Mark Twain
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Read this topic online here:
  >
  > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475838#475838
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Attachments:
  >
  > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_3_115.jpg
  > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_6_118.jpg
  > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_4_137.jpg
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  
  
  
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		herbgh(at)nctc.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Kolb Firestar | 
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				Hey Bill
 
    I tried them in the past but did not find anyone willing to transport 
 for less than a dollar a mile... 2300 miles or so...Herb
 On 11/29/2017 12:28 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   
 
  Herb, I'm guessing that one of the shipping "bid" agencies (U-ship, etc.) will transport the airplane for under $1000. The key to the whole thing will be that Martin would have to be willing to pack and load the airplane into the truck or trailer, rather than having a non-aviation driver do it.
 
  A little extra effort will pay off in money and a damage free trip.  Hang the wings from the roof of the trailer or truck box so they are above the rest of the stuff in there, and so nothing is sliding or vibrating against them while any other people's stuff is loaded and unloaded. Take the prop off and put it in a separate box. Put a "dummy" set of wheels on much shorter "dummy" dowel or tube gear legs so the cubic volume of the fuselage gets smaller.
 
  All I'm saying is that IF you want Martin's light weight and great flying Firestar... there are ways to reduce the cost of getting it there.
 
  Bill Berle
  www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
  www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
 
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  On Wed, 11/29/17, SugarDad <herbgh(at)nctc.com> wrote:
 
    Subject: Kolb Firestar
    To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
    Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 5:52 AM
    
    
    <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
    
    Martin
    
        Guessing  that plane is close to
    UL in weight?   Wish it were not so
    far away.  Herb
    
    
    On 11/28/2017 09:24 PM, wakataka
    wrote:
    > --> Kolb-List message posted
    by: "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net>
    >
    > Herb -
    > Looks like I'm going to be selling
    my Firestar. I own it jointly with a friend and he's getting
    out of flying. I've got another airplane so this one will be
    surplus. I haven't listed it anywhere yet. Here's a video
    that shows a bit of what it looks like.
    >
    > https://youtu.be/toCBMcCzrzg
    >
    > I planned to do a detailed video
    of the bird when I listed it. It's a 1985 Firestar with a
    Rotax 377 and a 64" Warp Drive Prop. The fabric is original
    but it's well done. I punch tested it just last week and it
    passed. It has a BRS that still has a couple of years before
    it expires and a strobe. The panel is basic steam guages.
    It's got mechanical, heel-operated disc brakes and the
    original "wheel barrow" wheels. I've owned it for about 5
    years. I replaced the spring washers in the gearbox when I
    bought it. I put a Ducati electronic ignition on it and
    replaced the pistons and cylinders with good used ones. I've
    got a lot of spares for it, including a dual carb set up
    that I never installed and a spare set of pistons and
    cylinders. It flies regularly and runs very smoothly. It's
    not the prettiest bird around but it's airworthy and flies
    nicely. I'll attach a few photos from Barnstormers when I
    bought the plane back in 2012, but it looks pretty much the
    same. I replaced the !
     an!
    >   alog tach with a Tiny
    Tach.
    >
    > I'd like to get $3,500 for it.
    It's located in Corning, California.
    >
    > Martin B.
    >
    > --------
    > There is something fascinating
    about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
    out of such a trifling investment of fact.
    >
    > Mark Twain
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Read this topic online here:
    >
    > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475838#475838
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Attachments:
    >
    > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_3_115.jpg
    > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_6_118.jpg
    > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1barnstormers_4_137.jpg
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    
    
    
    The Kolb-List Email Forum -
    Navigator to browse
    List Un/Subscription,
    7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,
         - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
    via the Web Forums!
        - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
    Email List Wiki!
       - List Contribution Web Site -
    support!
                   
        -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
    
    
    
    
 
 
 
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