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eccles(at)Chartermi.net
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 Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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Hey Boys and Girls
who can i get to annual my Kitfox? A&P or do I need a IA?
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bsmith3163(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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I might be wrong about this but I believe that any A&P can do an annual on an Experimental Aircraft, he or she does not need to be an AI.
I got the following off of EAA.ORG
Q & A: Question of the Week
Question For EAA Aviation Information Services:
I'm writing with some questions about FARs pertaining to airworthiness inspections of homebuilt airplanes.
FAR 91.409 (Inspections) says:
(c) Paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section do not apply to --
(1) An aircraft that carries a special flight permit, a current experimental certificate, or a provisional airworthiness certificate;
Paragraph (a) is the annual inspection requirement. Does FAR 91.409 (c) (1) exempt experimental category, amateur-built aircraft from the annual inspection requirement? If not, what is it talking about?
Another question: If the annual inspection is required, may it be performed and signed off by an A&P, or does it have to be an AI?
Answer: The requirement for an annual inspection, as called out in FAR 91.409(a)(1), is in fact nullified by the provisions of 91.409(c)(1) if the aircraft has a provisional or experimental airworthiness certificate, or a special flight permit. This is due to the fact that, by definition, the annual inspection verifies that the aircraft in question meets it's type design. Aircraft that have provisional or experimental airworthiness certificates do not have a type design or type certificate to be compared against. Thus, they cannot be inspected in accordance with an annual inspection.
These aircraft which are covered by 91.409(c)(1) are instead governed by a set of operating limitations. These operating limitations are issued along with, and are part of, the airworthiness certificate for that specific aircraft. In these operating limitations (OpLims) there will be the requirement for a "condition inspection". This condition inspection will commonly be required annually. The OpLims will also spell out who is authorized to do this inspection, and in general it will require an A&P mechanic. However, this A&P mechanic does NOT need an inspection authorization (IA).
Hope that this helps. Brian Smith.
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of eccles
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:39 PM
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Subject: Kitfox-List: Inspections
Hey Boys and Girls
who can i get to annual my Kitfox? A&P or do I need a IA?
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bsmith3163(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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Sorry, forgot the following. I believe that if you have the Repairmans Certificate (or whatever it is called) for this particular aircraft then you can do the Annual yourself. If you bought the aircraft you can do all of the maintenance but at least an A&P has to do the annual. Brian Smith.
If I am incorrect in this someone please correct me. Hope this helps.
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of eccles
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:39 PM
To: Kitfox-List(at)Matronics. Com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Inspections
Hey Boys and Girls
who can i get to annual my Kitfox? A&P or do I need a IA?
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asq1(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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An A&P. It is not an annual inspection,it is a condition inspection. But needs to be done once a year. ;o)
Larry Huntley
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kirkhull(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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If you are in the Kansas City area I would be happy to help you with that. all that is required is an A&P
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kirkhull(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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the annual part is correct. As an A&P I have done some annuals on homebuilts for new owners. As far a doing the rest of the maintenance I believe that also requires an A&P.
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kitfoxpilot(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: Inspections |
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Your right, if your not the builder you can do the work yourself and then
have an A&P inspect then sign off! he or she does not have to have an"I".
Now, if your not up to speed on your fox, then you shouold have someone with
knowledge with the fox to help you.
Ray
[quote]From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull(at)sbcglobal.net>
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To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Inspections
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:08:35 -0500
the annual part is correct. As an A&P I have done some annuals on
homebuilts for new owners. As far a doing the rest of the maintenance I
believe that also requires an A&P.
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eccles(at)Chartermi.net
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Inspections |
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Thanks everyone I am now clear on the subject,, there was a little doubt but
with all of your help is see that if you are NOT the builder an A&P can do
the " conditional Inspection " and there is no real need for a person with
an Inspection Authorization,, : ) thanks again
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