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Michel
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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: (off topic) Sailor stuff |
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On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:07 PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:
| Quote: | It may be more likely to have calm water than rough in a ditch vs a
sailboat storm sinking.
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Absolutely, Richard. It's a question of choice. In my sailboat, I have
two survival suits, the type used in the offshore oil industry up
north. It will keep you alive 24 hours in sub-zero temperature. But I
don't want a survival raft. My idea of riding a gale/storm is to stay
inside, lock all hatches, and wait for the weather to change.
| Quote: | My boat is wood... I have redudant DC pumps & batteries and AC pump
behind the DC then a streaming alarm (hello word - with not to call me
/ and instructions for manual pumping) if all that fails....
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When I had a wood boat, I would frequently wake up, in the morning,
with a bad dream of my boat being at the bottom of the harbour. ...
even in winter, when the boat was safe on land, under the snow! 
Cheers,
Michel
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Float Flyr
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: (off topic) Sailor stuff |
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If you're going to batten the hatches to ride out a storm be sure to use a
sea anchor to keep you headed into the wind.
When the weather is that foul the best place for the boat to be is on the
collar. The best place for the sailor is ashore. Too bad it doesn't always
work that way.
Noel
| Quote: | Absolutely, Richard. It's a question of choice. In my
sailboat, I have
two survival suits, the type used in the offshore oil industry up
north. It will keep you alive 24 hours in sub-zero temperature. But I
don't want a survival raft. My idea of riding a gale/storm is to stay
inside, lock all hatches, and wait for the weather to change.
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Michel
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: (off topic) Sailor stuff |
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On Jul 28, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
| Quote: | If you're going to batten the hatches to ride out a storm be sure to
use a
sea anchor to keep you headed into the wind.
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Well, Noel, I have read about everything that has been written about
sailing, since Joshua Slocum and there are different schools of
thought. The first aspect is if there is a lee shore or not. If not,
most sailors will prefer to run with the weather and, to prevent
broaching, will pay out, from the stern, a rope - as long as possible -
to slow the ship and keep her straight.
If leeway is to be kept to a minimum, most will heave to by simply
latching the tiller to the lee side, keeping the ship at an angle to
the weather. But most think (and it is also my own experience) that a
sea anchor has little effect on a deep keel sailboat since both the
ship and the anchor will drift at about the same rate.
Sea anchors are usually very cumbersome to handle. They have a rigid
ring to keep them open and they need a tripping line for recovery. In
the 70s, I designed a better sea anchor that I tried to commercially
manufacture but ... I am not a businessman. The principle is inspired
from the release parachute that pulls the main parachute out of its
bag. It can be easily folded into a bag and the entire package is
extremely compact, made out of spinnaker nylon.
But then again, such a sea anchor is, in my humble opinion, only useful
for motorboats with little depth and superstructure that offers a
strong windage.
| Quote: | When the weather is that foul the best place for the boat to be is
on the
collar. The best place for the sailor is ashore. Too bad it doesn't
always
work that way.
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That is true and I have no respect for a sailor that sets sail in a bad
weather forecast. But if say, you want to cross the Bay of Biscay, you
can't predict the weather for a long time and you have to take what is
coming. My slowest crossing was 9 days and my fastest was 5 days.
When the forecast gets nasty, the hard decision is to either try to
make it to a safe harbour before the worst is over us, or try to make
for open waters and ride it in a safe open place. Because the worst
place to be in bad weather is ... near the coast.
.. pretty much like flying. The worse place to experience turbulence
is ... near the ground.
Cheers,
Michel
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: (off topic) Sailor stuff |
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I guess it shows my experience is in shallow draft boats...hardly yachts or
ships. I have used bucket/s as a sea anchor to keep the boat pointed into
the wind.
I think I saw drawings of your sea anchor or something very similar at one
time.
As you say you can't always choose your weather. I've been flying on floats
at low altitude over a dead flat calm bay over one ridge to land in a pond
amongst whitecaps. The weather can change fast!
Noel
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Michel
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: (off topic) Sailor stuff |
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On Jul 29, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
| Quote: | The weather can change fast!
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.. squall lines, Noel? The wind goes from nil to gale force in matter
of seconds. Been there, done that. It is not too bad when it happens
during day time because you can see the telltale clouds. But ... at
night? ... been there too.
Cheers,
Michel
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