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pacificpainting(at)comcas
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: Jabiru 5100 |
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Does anyone have any personal experience with the Jabiru 180 horse engine? I've looked at the website, but am wondering what they are really like. Looks like they are similar in cost to an XP360.
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: Jabiru 5100 |
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As a machinist I was/am very impressed with the engine. A few years back the price was inline with experimental do it yourself costs. They now are getting quite expensive. The big drawback of the 8 cyl for a stol plane is that stols need a large diameter prop and the 5100 makes 180 HP at 3300 rpm. It is a good engine for an RV needing a 68 -72" dia prop. At 2700 rpm the thing makes something like 135 HP. An 801 needs way more then that.....
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Ben Haas
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-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting(at)comcast.net> wrote:
Does anyone have any personal experience with the Jabiru 180 horse engine? I've looked at the website, but am wondering what they are really like. Looks like they are similar in cost to an XP360.
Dave in Salem
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pacificpainting(at)comcas
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: Jabiru 5100 |
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Ben,
Good point. That's why I asked the question.
How is the V8 in your plane holding up? I contacted you awhile back about it, but didn't pursue it much further. Are you selling installation kits or firewall forward with your engines?
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: Jabiru 5100 |
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Dave wrote"
Ben,
Good point. That's why I asked the question.
How is the V8 in your plane holding up? I contacted you awhile back about it, but didn't pursue it much further. Are you selling installation kits or firewall forward with your engines
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My motor has run perfectly for all the 140 hours I have on my plane. The "issues" have been with the BeltedAir redrive I chose to use. Jess(at) Beltedair told me his engineer, Bill, was sure it would transmit the power my engine could develop. He accepted my check and cashed it. The darn thing has failed four times. Each time I address the failure and modify it to make it bulletproof in the area it fails. Bearings were upgraded, end plates were increased in thickness, Lower bearing size has been increased and additional press fit has been included on the stubshaft. I even changed the manufacturer of the belt going from the Carlilse to the Gates. That in itself helped a bunch. Now that I have replaced just about everything in the unit I am pretty comfortable with its durability. Unfortunatly this last failure happened just days before the departure date for my to go to Oshkosh. In my amazement Beltedair's market is the experimentals and he didn't have a booth there , in fact I coulnd't even find a plane there using his redrive, strange in itself. He claims he has sold hundreds of those things and statistics should dictate at least one should have been there. Hmmm.I make it a personal policy to achieve 20 hours of quirk frre flying before leaving my airport area and I cuold not accompolish that before Osh. it now has those hours on it and in hindsite the trip to Osh would have been safe. The heat between here and there would have made the trip unbearable so I am glad I drove this year. FWIW, The beltedair redrive would probably be ok for 130 HP V-6 Chevies though. I also want to make it clear my engine is definatly tooooo powerful for a Zenith 801. The plane can handle the power and weight, it's the low speed response from the flaperons at full flaps that will bite you, plane is great from 38 mph indicated on. Below that airspeed it will torque roll into the runway on takeoff. Needless to say I WON'T do that again.................... On side note a few of my observations from my visit to OSH. The 0-360,0-390,0-400 Lyc clones look like the way to go for the 801 altho the prices are getting up there. I did speak to the new owners of the Franklin engine company, two things , first they barely spoke english, second, the deliverly date for a new 220 HP motor was about a year away. Current asking price for one was 18,400 from one rep,17,900 from the other, the third rep couldn't speak a word of english but would stand there and grin... I hate that when it happens. <G>
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Ben Haas
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www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting(at)comcast.net> wrote:
Ben,
Good point. That's why I asked the question.
How is the V8 in your plane holding up? I contacted you awhile back about it, but didn't pursue it much further. Are you selling installation kits or firewall forward with your engines?
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