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tmathieu(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

I have an old Bendix autopilot on my 500 Shrike. It has been giving us trouble while trying to hold the heading bug or in the Nav function. Anyone have a suggestion as to who might be best qualified to troubleshoot this system. Also, if you were going to upgrade, which system would you go with and what should I expect to spend on such a system. Any help would be tremendously appreciated.  

Sincerely,  

Tommy Mathieu

dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Autopilot Central... Go to

 http://www.sparksaviationcenter.com/indexauto.htm

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial0 Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

CloudCraft(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

In a message dated 02-Aug-06 14:06:43 Pacific Daylight Time, tmathieu(at)MSN.COM writes:

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		  I have an old Bendix autopilot on my 500 Shrike. It has been giving us trouble while trying to hold the heading bug or in the Nav function. Anyone have a suggestion as to who might be best qualified to troubleshoot this system. Also, if you were going to upgrade, which system would you go with and what should I expect to spend on such0a system. Any help would be tremendously appreciated. 	


 Tommy,

  

 You didn't say which old Bendix A/P you have -- is it an M4 series?  

  

 If so, make sure your "TURN" command knob is in the center detent.  It's a very subtle detent and if it's out, it cancels HDG mode or NAV mode.

  

 See the "TURN" knob below. 

  

 Next, check your ROLL trim.  On some A/P control heads, if this is pulled out, it can cancel or interfere with HDG mode.  This also has a detent, so see if you can find it and start engaging HDG or NAV mode from that point.

  

 

  

 If either of those checks don't get you0happy, take the airplane to Autopilots Central in Tulsa, OK.   That may be far away from you, but I don't know of anyone left who understands0the Bendix/Motorola M4s.

  

 There are some trim pots than can be adjusted for ROLL or NAV track and that's best done in flight with the autopilot technician turning set screws while you keep the airplane safe.

 

It may be that you need a circuit board replaced.  Autopilot Central should have them, or, can trouble shoot components if need be.

  

 It may be that you need the autopilot replaced and I trust if that's so, several TCFG members will check in with their recommendations on modern systems.

  

 Good luck!

  

 Wing Commander Gordon

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

tm, re auto pilot  refer to century flight systems in mineral wells  tx.  

system 2000  works real well.  mason

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		  From: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu(at)msn.com>

Reply-To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

To: <commander-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Message regarding autopilot

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:02:42 -0500

I have an old Bendix autopilot on my 500 Shrike. It has been giving us

trouble while trying to hold the heading bug or in the Nav function. Anyone

have a suggestion as to who might be best qualified to troubleshoot this

system. Also, if you were going to upgrade, which system would you go with

and what should I expect to spend on such a system. Any help would be

tremendously appreciated.

Sincerely,

Tommy Mathieu

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hcourier(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Hi Tommy,  

  

     I have an old Bendix M4 in the Aero Commander I fly and0 it was not working about a year ago.  I knew a man in Ferandina Beach, FL0 who did avionics and I asked him about it.  He said, "I've been working on0 the M4 since 1961 when they came out and have many parts around".  So I0 sent him the controller and black box.  He fixed it and it works great0 now.  It's very steady and except for a few minor quirks (nothing0 bothersome) it's great.  He has all the test equipment for it too. 

  

     He's not doing as much avionics work as he use to but he0 might work on it if your are not in a hurry.  I've got another Bendix at0 his shop...so mine comes first,...ha! ha!

  

     Send me your email address and I'll give you his  particulars, address, phone number, etc.  I don't know if he's looking for0 a lot of business these days.  He's doing more corporate flying now than he0 use to. 

  

 Ray Mansfield

 hcourier(at)cox.net (hcourier(at)cox.net)

  

  

  

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  	  Quote: 	
		     From:0   Tommy Mathieu (tmathieu(at)MSN.COM)0   

   To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)0   

   Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 4:020   PM

   Subject: Message0   regarding autopilot

   



      

I have an old Bendix0   autopilot on my 500 Shrike. It has been giving us trouble while trying to hold0   the heading bug or in the Nav function. Anyone have a suggestion as to who0   might be best qualified to troubleshoot this system. Also, if you were going0   to upgrade, which system would you go with and what should I expect to spend0   on such a system. Any help would be tremendously0 appreciated.   

Sincerely,   

Tommy0   Mathieu

dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

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When I purchased my 500 Shrike I had an S-tec 60-2 installed and it was a used one.  It cost around 12,500 once it was said and done.  

   

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tmathieu(at)MSN.COM
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:41 am Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Thank you all so much for the input. We have an appointment set up with Autopilot Central in Tulsa. I also copied the instructions you gave for troubleshooting the system. I cannot thank you all enough. It is greatly appreciated!  

Sincerely,  

Tommy Mathieu

dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

They have worked well for us, and will use them0 again... Good Luck!

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial0 Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

amg3636(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

For what it is worth,



The avionics guy at my airport has some old autopilot parts. Don't know what 

brand or details. Heres contact info.Sandhills Avionics , Jeff Kraudelt, 

910-947-1760.or  Sandhills(at)PlaneWerks.com



Roland Gilliam

[quote]From: Ray Mansfield <hcourier(at)cox.net>

Reply-To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Message regarding autopilot

Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:50:27 -0500



Hi Tommy,



     I have an old Bendix M4 in the Aero Commander I fly and it was not 

working about a year ago.  I knew a man in Ferandina Beach, FL who did 

avionics and I asked him about it.  He said, "I've been working on the M4 

since 1961 when they came out and have many parts around".  So I sent him 

the controller and black box.  He fixed it and it works great now.  It's 

very steady and except for a few minor quirks (nothing bothersome) it's 

great.  He has all the test equipment for it too.



     He's not doing as much avionics work as he use to but he might work on 

it if your are not in a hurry.  I've got another Bendix at his shop...so 

mine comes first,...ha! ha!



     Send me your email address and I'll give you his particulars, address, 

phone number, etc.  I don't know if he's looking for a lot of business 

these days.  He's doing more corporate flying now than he use to.



Ray Mansfield

hcourier(at)cox.net



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moe(at)rosspistons.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Gents:



Regarding the M1 Autopilots.



Jack Chappell (Phone 951.371.7513) should have quite a few parts for the M1

and some servo testers that he got from me a while back.  I also have the

complete shop manuel with fold out diagrams ect. that I bought from Mark

Thompson a while back.  I beleive that I paid $ 250.00 for it.  If anyone

needs it I will sell it to you for a GREATLY reduced price.



Regards,



Moe

N680RR

680F(p)

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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Avionics Inc. at LUK Cincinnati does great M-4 work. He has been working on0 them for years and does not just suggest "replace it. 

  

 In my opinion I would not replace an M-4 with any of these new autopilots0 unless I could not fix it. 

  

 I would love to have one in my 560F but I can not get the paperwork!

  

 Bill Leff

Skyhawkc-172

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 84

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Any thoughts on a Britten B4 autpilot, we have one that is currently inoperative.

 Thanks guys...

 Brent Mueller - N224HA

  

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		  -------------- Original message -------------- 

From: BillLeff1(at)aol.com 

  Avionics Inc. at LUK Cincinnati does great M-4 work. He has been working on them for years and does not just suggest "replace it. 

  

 In my opinion I would not replace an M-4 with any of these new autopilots unless I could not fix it. 

  

 I would love to have one in my 560F but I can not get the paperwork!

  

 Bill Leff

br549phil(at)mindspring.c
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Hi Bill, 

 I still have an L2 which works a bit.  What do you have in yours?

 I'd like to replace it.

  

  Phil Stubbs

  

  

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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

I had a Collins AP-102E. Nobody can fix it. There is one test set in the  world! and it is in Asia!!

  

 I am currently installing a Century III witch is approved for the  560F

  

 Bill Leff

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br549phil(at)mindspring.c
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Hi Bill,

 Just found out the Chelton AP-3c is STCd for the 560F.  I'm exploring that but was wondering if you got your CIII from salvage 560F or what?

  

  

  Phil Stubbs

  

  

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tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

Phil,I just looked on the Chelton web site and no Aero Commanders were listed.

What models have they added?

Any thing on a 680E?

Tylor Hall



On Aug 22, 2006, at 1:39 PM, "" <br549phil(at)mindspring.com (br549phil(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:

[quote]  Hi Bill,

 Just found out the Chelton AP-3c is STCd for the 560F.  I'm exploring that but was wondering if you got your CIII from salvage 560F or what?

  

  

  Phil Stubbs

  

  

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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: Message regarding autopilot

I got most of the parts from a Shrike that it was removed from. I have all  the paperwork and drawings. It is available from Century.

  

 Bill 

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